During the hysteria-filled frenzy following the I-Man’s comments about the Rutgers women’s basketball team last April, Barack Obama was the first presidential nominee to call for Imus’ ouster:
There’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group.
- Barack Obama, April 9, 2007 in an interview with ABC News
The hypocrisy of Obama’s statements is immediately obvious in light of the recent revelations regarding the candidate’s close connections to racist pastor Reverend Jeremiah Wright, who was an advisor to his campaign until a few days ago. But the disconnect is that Imus’ comments, inappropriate as they were, were satirical. Reverend Wright’s statements, on the other hand, display hate-filled racism, justified by falsehoods(“The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color.”). [more statements from Reverend Wright]
People in Wright’s congregation no doubt use what they learn from their pastor on Sunday to justify their own weekday racism as well. This is very dangerous. He is inciting real violence when he declares that African-Americans committing black-on-black crime are “fighting the wrong enemy.” [WorldNetDaily]
Back in April ‘07, Obama said that Imus’ remark was “verbal violence.” If Obama is even going to be emotionally consistent, it seems like Reverend Wright is at the very least engaged in “verbal violence.”
But it sounds like Wright is inciting real violence against people based on skin color. Imus’ NHH remark was the single most extreme example in a morning comedy program for adults, the exception that proved the rule. It took a Media Matters lackey 2 years of lurking to find something suitably offensive. Obama, on the other hand, took his children to hear Wright speak regularly. And Wright wasn’t being satirical. Indeed, if the black men passing by Obama’s grandmother on the street had just heard this sermon, she might have had a reason to have been frightened.
In the last few days, we’ve seen supporters of Wright defend his First Amendment right to free speech. That defense wasn’t enough for Imus’ satire, which was ripped completely out of every kind of context, down to a nub of 3 words. (At least Rev. Wright is allowed whole sentences and paragraphs.) New rules popped up last April to govern what someone can and can’t say, based on the apparent lightness of their skin. Obama wants the strictest possible rules for one group, the widest possible level of acceptance for another. Obama may not be a racist, but he is certainly an enabler of his pastor’s racist philosophy on one hand, the advocate of free speech limits for some—based on historical grievances and the skin color of the speaker—on the other.
(Plus, no one is saying Wright should be prohibited from saying these things, or anything for that matter, just that Obama is probably going to pay a political price for the association.)
Others claim this is unfair “guilt by association.” Obama is running for president, they say, not Reverend Wright. But this isn’t about guilt by association. It’s an illustration of the philosophy Obama has chosen to hear on Sunday, the ideas he wants his kids to learn early.
Now, one has to ask: What is the biggest example of racism that’s been dug up in the last year or so, the greatest modern-day purveyor of white racist evil? Imus fans know that episode was an absurdity, a few words from a morning shock jock taken out of satirical context, taken out of the context of Don Imus’ long history of deep admiration of the African-American experience(occasionally to the point of mimicry) and celebration of black culture. The evil that Reverend Wright is railing about in these clips is largely a phantom. In his Philadelphia race speech, Obama brought belief in this ghost to the level of presidential politics. He shares his philosophy with Reverend Wright. It’s more important to him than the Bill of Rights.
This is an example of what some call “liberal insanity,” which manifests itself in twisted double-think. It always finds reasons to justify its own feelings self-righteously, so hypocrisy and double-standards are never far away. Now, modern technologies make the loop on this stuff short enough for all of us to perceive. Yes, Senator Obama said a lot of good things to get the race discussion going again. But most of this is a generational process that is simply going to have to work itself out. We’re all equal. Of course where there are iniquities in education, health care, justice and opportunity those things need to be addressed immediately. Of course.
For many, the Imus incident last April was “when the war came home.” Unfortunately, it’s becoming more clear that I’m right about this.
Muslims nations: Defame Islam, get sued?
Many Muslims [are] against principles of freedom of speech enshrined in the constitutions of numerous Western governments.
“I don’t think freedom of expression should mean freedom from blasphemy,” said Senegal’s President Abdoulaye Wade, the chairman of the 57-member Organization of the Islamic Conference. “There can be no freedom without limits.”
Delegates were given a voluminous report by the OIC that recorded anti-Islamic speech and actions from around the world. The report concludes that Islam is under attack and that a defense must be mounted.
These are the same principles Barack Obama has shown himself to support.
The biggest example remains the 2005 cartoons printed in Denmark. And today bin Laden is making death threats to the entire continent of Europe for “defamation” of Islam. Offended by some little cartoons? Blame an entire continent. Now that’s guilt by association.
Incredible. Barack Obama is enabling and justifying the words of Reverend Wright with almost exactly the same logic that Wright uses to justify the actions of Osama bin Laden.
Barack Obama has shown his cards again, and it’s the same hand he had last April. This guy wants to defend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? No way. He has already shown how he feels about the First Amendment and freedom of speech. He does not defend them for all. For him, racial solidarity comes first, above the absolute quality of the First Amendment. In my book, a racist philosophy of viewing the world is racism. The civil rights movement has reached the end of the line. It’s over. We’re equal. Much of America is already in a post-racial world. That’s where Imus’ program existed. Come join us.
As a white man(a racist appellation I object to, but we’ll save it), I can personally attest to the fact that I’ve been passed by probably 20 times more empty taxicabs than have pulled over to pick me up. Besides, the only white cab drivers these days are in Las Vegas.
Can’t wait to have a black president, a President who happens to be black, just not this guy. No way.
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Well, I agree not this guy.
If someone would like to post in the top slot in favor of any candidate, they are welcome to do so.
No, this site is not just for McCain supporters.
It has little to do with Imus’ support for McCain, although McCain’s honesty, and Imus’ honesty, tend to draw similar people to both of them.
In any case, my previous comment(since I am ultimately in charge here) is the rule, not whatever anybody else says. PLEASE let’s keep the conversation good and open.
I agree. I would like to think it will happen in time, having a Black in the White house, or a woman, or a Latino.
I am just wondering, as we are now seeing with Governor Paterson, what other “admissions” will be coming out with HObama’s election to the Presidency. Why couldn’t HObama just face hard questions about his dealings with Wright, instead of yet another perfectly manicured speech, bringing sound and fury, but signifying…nothing.
See videos: Shame On Joe Scarborough, MSM and Obama Parts 2, 3 and 1
Scarborough wants the public to believe a lie. Scarborough calls Rev. Wright’s statements about Nagasaki and Hiroshima in his sermon a “hateful tirade.” The American people don’t deserve to be manipulated and lied to.
I can’t believe it!!! The Today Show covered Obama’s “typical white person” quote!!!!! They did a simulcast with Morning Joe. Said if Hillary would have made a “typical black person” quote there would be a firestorm. Said that the bloggers are having a field day with this. (Doesn’t the April incident come to mind?)
Very well written, Keith. There aren’t enough superlatives. There should be “food for thought” for everyone here.
As I’ve said before, I’m desperately trying to be an independent this time around. Any comments I’ve made about Sen. McCain weren’t meant as endorsements but just a realization on my part that he will be the beneficiary of the Democrats seeming incompetence and inability (can I add lack of courage here) to stand for anything anymore (that’s the way I see it ..anyway). I’m tired of being pandered to …aren’t you?
Andy Rooney said on IITM a couple of weeks ago that he thought we had a good field of candidates this year. I’m skeptical about that. But the election isn’t until November. There is still time for a “good candidate” or any of his or her supporters to change my mind and win my support. I’m ready to listen to what they’ve got. It better be good, though.
queenpat,
Bella wants a HObama button, do we have a captilist in the house? I was thinking of another good blog title because Obama apparently can’t stop digging himself a hole would be “Whoa OBama ” You can’t say that on TV (typical white person) – wasn’t that an old Nickelodean show?
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I am not so sure I agree with your point of view. I do not agree with what the Rev. has to say, but I do not find them to be prejudice or hateful towards white people. I think there is racial content. I think he may be in the deep end on some subjects. I just don’t see the racist parts!
He may have been hasty in his comments regarding 9-11. But they are not anti white. They could be called inconsiderate.
He did not say “those peckerwood, cracker-a$$ white people”
Imus SAID “Nappy headed ho’s” and his co said “jigaboos”
I’m not sure, but I think that is a racial slur. Now, maybe Imus didn’t say all of it, but, the nappy headed part is pretty tough and the rest…whew
I know you probably won’t post this comment…just wanted to say what I think.
Listen to short interview at: http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/22/audio-shelby-steele-on-obama-and-wright/
discusses race-baiting & black nationalism of Wright’s church…
responding to #10, herjourneybegins:
I’m not making a direct comparison between Imus(a comedian) and Wright(a religious leader).
I’m illustrating Obama’s hypocritical response to each instance. Imus comments were “racial satire”, copied from a Spike Lee film which featured almost the exact same language applied to the same situation. Rev. Wright has a racist view of the world. Maybe you haven’t heard all the clips. Obama brought his kids there. The Imus show(very little of which was remotely like the nappy-headed ho’s comment) was a rough-edged morning show for adults, where EVERYBODY gets made fun of(including my ethnic group) and that’s fun. Twisted maybe, but it’s freedom and our choice.
Obama had no problem being part of the un-American cabal that took that away from so many.
Obama’s hypocrisy: He defends Wright completely, asking for people to understand where he’s coming from, to add context, and so on. On the other hand, Imus could be completely judged on the out-of-context 3 or 4 words.
Why? Because for Obama, blacks deserve special rules regarding free speech because of generations-old grievances. In other words, “racial respect” is the new First Amendment.
This understanding of free speech disqualifies him from being President.
Nevermind that Obama is running for President(and Wright is his father figure) and Imus is a morning talk show host. Why the standards should be higher for a comedian than a president is really twisted.
I am not making a direct comparison of the remarks.
I respect your opinion. I have not listened to everything that Wright has said, but i have heard and read a good deal of highlights. I guess it’s a situation that is hard to understand until you have lived it.
Personally I do not expect white people to continue to apologize for slavery and segregation and things that happened to my ancesters by their ancestors.
I do expect someone to apologize for throwing ricks at me and calling me a n**** when I was ten and spent my fiirst summer in south Georgia.
I want someone to apologize for following me through a store because they assumed that I could not afford anything in it based on my color. (because I was dressed better then they were, so I know it was not because I looked poor0
If you have not experienced things like this than it is easy to think that black people are “holding on” to the past. It is possible to think that racism is not that bad or doesn’t exist any more. But the fact is that it does.
As I have been writing this…I realized that I am taking up way too much room for a comment so I cut some out to not be rude! If you want to read more…check out my page!
Imus will never be President of the United States.
And neither will Barack Obama.
The same people who insisted and demanded that Imus be fired from his program in April of last year are the very same people who now are splitting all kinds of hairs to defend Mr. Wright. It’s not the same thing — Imus is an entertainer. He has a radio/tv program early in the morning designed for adults like me who don’t go for the more hard core comedy. He’s not teaching anyone, he’s not in the pulpit teaching children that all their problems can be traced back to the white man — and he’s not running for president.
It was shocking to hear Mr. Wright’s words but more shocking to hear the cheers of the people when he said G.D. America!!
Wright is anti-American and associated with Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam and Obama is associated with Wright, having him as his mentor for many years. If Obama wanted to be president he should have had enough insight to know he could not be associated in any way with these people.
herjourneybegins:
I am very sorry you had a bad experience in Georgia when you were younger.
bella, Obama has a very good chance of winning however!
herjourneybegins, I think more of us understand than you might think, will write more when I get back on here.
Upcoming post will be quoting more from Shelby Steele’s book “White Guilt” on how he was a bat boy for a white team and when they finally had to take the bus to an away game he wasn’t allowed to go because the ballpark… it is a crushing story.
I will stay posted on what goes on here. It is nice to be able to communicate with out angry lash back comments!
While I disagree with some things, I think that you are moving in the right direction…maybe more will do the same!
herjourneybegins,
could you post a link for your page, you said we could read more.
Keith
I was bringing up the comparisons to Imus’s situation last April. Imus said, I’m not going to whine. Remember I have one of those memories.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/03/23/wright-replacement-calls-npr-national-publican-radio
Keith,
People will compare this is human nature as I brought up many times it is like before you buy something like what a canidate says you compare.
I guess the new pastor of trinity doesn’t have a good memory.
http://www.talkers.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=5&id=30&Itemid=127
I think the comparison is not apt. Don Imus ran a radio show and his contract called for him to be, well, “out of the box”…outrageous…that is how Don Imus won his lawsuit. He was doing what he was paid to do.
To compare Don Imus with a Minister of a Black church., and to compare what Black Americans have been through…is a moot point.
To compare a radio “shock jock” to a Minister of a Black church is a mystery to me.
Someone posted at Imustruth that none of us has walked in the Reverend Wrights shoes. That is food for thought. It was expressed very well by the post #13.
Our country IS a melting pot…yet, the importation of Africans into our culture and country is quite different…from immigrating peoples from other countries and cultures.
My hat does go off to Chris Wallace, from Fox News…for pointing out the very same inflammatory press that originally led to to Don Imus being fired in the first place.
From Huffington Post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/21/foxs-chris-wallace-criti_n_92741.html
Apples and oranges… my own opinion.
Until the discussion moves from us V.S. them and tit-for-tat…we are doomed to just put these important issues on the back burner…and allow them to continue to simmer.
I, as an American citizen, and tired of the us V.S. them mentality that continues…right up until this very day. Whether the issue is blacks and whites, Republicans and Democrats…it is time to end this, once and for all.
If you want to decry horrible things espoused by religion…and the leaders…just look back into history.
Saints…well, there are many…yet many devils in the mix as well. Many more horrible crimes in history has been committed in the name of (place your favorite religion here)…and it just goes on…and on.
We can always look for our differences. THAT is an easy thing for us. To find some common ground? That is another story all together. PRIDE is a horrible sin. Pride in WHATEVER…whether Religion, your Country, …anything…because Pride comes just before the fall.
History has taught that to humanity, oh…so well.
In keeping with Donald’s most eloquent post and his insight on all things that we have been posting about.
The hate in Reverend Wright’s sermons and some other Black Pastors, maybe it is time to remember something that Donald posted about in December during Imus’ winter vacation.
Sir Laurence Olivier from Dave Clark (Time) 1969
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5QYWTZqf7o
I quote Donald in the side bar. And it too was eloquent.
Thank you Donald. A true man of wisdom.
P.S.
To the comment that we lost a great show and now have a “shadow of the former show”….I think the show is great as it is. I commend Don Imus for doing what he is doing. Many of his fans are not happy…yet He is doing WHAT HE SAID he would do. No one else in the Major Media has done it. Imus IS doing it. I, for one, am grateful.
To all of his supposed fans and longtime listeners…I would only say this, and I said it before. It’s HIS show…not yours. As Imus has said, “your job is to listen”.
I’m listening. And I’m proud of him.
DonaldInks,
I am comparing the Media Lynching brought up by the new pastor of trinity and the media lynching last April. Wasn’t Rev Wright one of those people who called for Imus to be fired? Didn’t he join in the pile on?
Pile on, has a different meaning since Gov McGreevey’s multi tasking handy man, made his confession. Typical white people..piling on
The show is a shadow of the former show. And to be truthful I am very happy for those who do like the new one. It still is a shadow of the former show. Imus is a shadow of his former self because he was bashed unjustly in April.
The following video is a result of my search on the black church.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU&feature=related
Laree…
All I can think of, is this: If you haven’t walked in another persons shoes…do not be outraged. Their rage will be obviously different from your outrage. It works both ways.
To compare what Don Imus was under contract to provide to his audience…to a Minister of a Black church, is apples, and oranges.
My point is this…instead people becoming filled with anger and hatred…ask why this is still going on in our country…and build bridges… and not burn them.
Every person I know of in our country has suffered an injustice.
I cannot think of a worse injustice than being brought into this country as a slave.
You can’t comprehend that, nor has your genealogy suffered from the aftereffects, nor has had it passed down from generation to generation. Most settlers and immigrants came to this country on their own free will.
There is the crux of the problems that have continued for our Country since the importation of people as SLAVES.
As far as “White Guilt” and the issue that has been brought up by certain posters…
…it goes beyond “guilt”. It comes closer to understanding where those feelings that have been passed down through generations come from…and why. No “Typical White” person has had that passed down to them. Something “else” in it’s place was…and it wasn’t any better than what generations of slaves have passed down….
The only “White Guilt” that might be apt would be this: It’s done. We fixed it for you. Get over it.
In the area I live in, there are many multi-cultural peoples…and from all countries. Many are black, but don’t relate to what African American decendants think, and feel.
The healing process needs understanding and much talking about. (Thank you Keith, for the forum).
DonaldInks,
The Melungeon people were persecuted, they were not allowed in white schools and the black people didn’t want them either, check out the first Melungeon school in Sneedsville, Tennessee. No I don’t have white guilt, check out what Walter Plecker did to the Melungeons, go ahead and google it. Black people are not the only minority that have ever suffered in this country. My family is multi ethnic, my husband is Spanish and Korean, we have people of African descent on both sides of our family, meaning not only do they carry African Genes, they display those Genes.
If people are going to be self rightious and they were,and call for Imus to be fired last April and it was a media lynching and then turn around and whine and com,plain they are the victim, when the very same thing happens to them, yes I am going to point out the hypocrisy.
We have been challenged to have an honest and open discussion of race in America. So let’s tell the truth for a change. There are those who will write long and eloquent essays advising us to “walk in Wright’s shoes” and so forth and to punish ourselves because of something our ancesters did or may have done because not every white person had slaves.
As white folks, we take what we are given in life and we make the best of it. Is it too much to ask that black folks do the same? When we get turned down for a job, we don’t say it was because of some discrimination, we move on and try again. I have no problem whatsoever in anyone black, white, whatever, prospering in life. I don’t look around and say, oh, they had a better start than I had. I just get to work making my life better.
And anyone who holds onto the past with bitterness would be advised by a psychiatrist to let it go. You cannot change the past, only the future.
Here is a link to the first Melungeon School, they were not Black or White or Indian as far as anyone knows ?? tri racial isolates there are people who hate that discription…before the civil war black mammy’s would tell their little white charges be good or the Melungeons will get you. When asked what their heritage was, they would answer Portygee. That is close in spelling to an Indian tribe and Portugese.
http://www.aca-dla.org/site-templates/Melungeons/Melungeons.html
You will not like this post.
I guarantee you that.
Imus is, or WAS, a shock jock to entertain and titillate in a manner to be controversial. It was his contract to do so.
Imus IS different for a reason, THAT reason apparently is lost on much of “The I-Nation”.
The “I-Nation” is still bent on “revenge” for what happened to him back last April.
To compare Reverend Wright, and his comments….
…to compare indignation that blacks raised over Imus’ comments, but not over Reverend Wrights comments:
…IS total HYPOCRISY.
Let me remind you… there were many WHITE folks out there in the media to pound some nails into Imus’ flesh also.
Come to think of it…in the entire Major Media News…how many are owned and run by Black Americans? How many major Newspapers? How many major Magazines?
How many of the corporations that bailed on Imus and advertisers are, or were, black owned?
It goes deeper than what I am reading here.
I do not agree with most of it.
…and, I think it is just disingenuous.
Walter Plecker was a Virginia state govt employee, bent on unholding the rule that there be no intermarriage btw whites and people of any other color. Remember there used to be laws on the books about inter racial marriage.
Walter Plecker would look up a person’s family in the census and check their marriage certificate if that person came up on his list, he would check to see if the people’s child, showed the correct race on their birth certificate and if he deemed that they were tyring to pass for white, he would turn over the birth certificate and write what he felt the truth was about their ethnicity. They say that IBM’s machines were used by the Nazis in their quest to document who was and wasn’t part of the pure race. They say Walter Plecker was one of the people who showed them how to find out what a person’s ethnicity really truly involved. Walter Plecker persecuated and made the lives of countless Melungeons unbearable, he died in an accident crossing the street, hit by a truck, many Melungeons hope it was a Melungeon driving the Truck. Today in Hill Country calling someone a Melungeon is still considered an offensive name.
The Plecker Letters
http://multiracial.com/site/content/view/986/29/
Lots of people have suffered in this country I mentioned before The Chinese working the Rail Road Routes, clearing mountains the old saying (Not a China men’s Chance) you could always get more cheap Chinese labor. The countless asians sold into prostitution in the old west, check out the book “Soiled Doves, Prostitution in the Old West” by Seagraves. You know Jesse Jackson is the only one of the group who has a org called “Rainbow Coalition” is it possible he is the only one who gets it?
Donald Inks,
Thanks for your great post!!! I agree with you. You may remember me, I am Susan, you taped the first Imus show for me months ago:)
I hope everything is going well for you and yours.
DonaldInks,
I am not out for revenge, where in pointing out the hypocrisy is that revenge? People had a field day more like weeks hammering Imus with NHH in the Media. Why shouldn’t Rev J Wright be treated the same way? GDA and no apology! because I think I am better then him because I have white guilt, so cut him some slack? I don’t have white guilt, I don’t think, I am better then him, he is where he is in the media right now because of his own actions WORDS. Just like Imus stated last April, I wouldn’t be in this position if I hadn’t said it, I said it, I am not going to whine about it. Imus took personal responsiblity.
Temporarily suspending my comments on the most recent posts I want to show you something funny.
Now some of the wonderful member/poster/commenters here may find this offensive or not funny. But I thought it was kind of hilarious how they put words in Bill Richardson and Barack Obama’s Mouth.
Take a look. No comments to me are needed.
Sometimes we just have to relax and enjoy things.
“Red State Update: Richardson Endorses Obama”
Boycotts they are all relative, I remember the secondary boycott, when the first boycott of the networks didn’t look like it was going to work, they went after the network’s advertisers.
When you sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind.
There are things going on right underneath people’s noses.
Obama may have Melungeon roots on his Mother’s Denham side. I don’t want to play MHA. Boycotting!
http://historical-melungeons.blogspot.com/2008/03/i-wont-play-mha.html
Politics it is all realtive. Remember Hillary Clinton you tube video accusing her of taking money from those folks to deny the Armenian Geneocide? I wondered are those really foreigners or American’s playing dress up. (Infulence Peddling?)
There are real boogey men in the world.
Walter Ashby Plecker eugenist, he was also on the Third Riechs mailing list, he wanted to help them with their eugenics program..maybe he helped craft what they would use to collect information on people’s possible jewish heritage and IBM provided the whole punch machine…..Walter Plecker racist boogey man if ever there was one. All kinds of people have been persecuted and oppressed, there isn’t a monopoly on suffering in America.
It took Senator George Allen to turn back some of the damage of Walter A Plecker. And that is very recent history a remedy for how many years after the fact?
http://www.manataka.org/page1683.html
I appreciate the fact that some here recognize that if you are not black you cannot understand the point of view or the struggles associated with being black.
I can see both side to the situation, but, guess it is easy for me to not be angered over what Wright says because I have seen too many situations where white people were thinking the same, just didn’t say it!
I know some of you may disagree or not like what I have said, but it’s the truth.
short example:
One day in the church I grew up in (which was all white but me!!! and one Indian family) had a visitor from the local neighborhood. Now, way back when this was an upper class white area, but not so anymore. The rich people moved away but stayed members of the church and apartments and subsidized housing took over bringing many minority families. The visitor was an older black woman by the name of Ty. She was well dressed, well spoken, and very nice. Immediately after the sermon the session (elders) called a meeting about local people attending the church. There was an uproar over this woman who had made it know that she intended to attend regularly and had hoped to become a member! (I know this because I was a quite little church mouse who wanted to know what all the fuss was about and snuck in to the choir loft to hear what was going on. It was decided that one of the ladies of the church would kindly speak with this woman and suggest she find a church more suited to her needs. Ty heard what the woman had to say and then she thanked her for the suggestion. She also said that this church had everything she needed, as she had recently been declared unfit to drive due to her vision and had no means of getting to any other church with out being taken. Since Ty was an independent woman she decided she would go where she could take herself.
The following Sunday There was Ty in the middle of the church ready to praise the Lord. Again the session had a meeting. There was concern that others would follow. Then what would we do? Ty refused to leave despite several attempts to make her feel out of place, inconvenience her, and just generally asking her to leave. After about 4 months they finally gave up. She refused to leave. She was a permanent fixture in that little church and I would imagine she still is, as long as she is still around.
Now, that may not seem like much…but they did not want her there. They felt in their hearts that the church was a white church even if they would not out and say it. It was known by all, even myself, that this particular church was a white church. Does it make it better that it was not said?
Is Wright better because he says what he thinks? Does is even matter?
When will racist acts stop? Isn’t that what really matters? When will affirmative action (which I personally don’t like) no longer have a place? When will our nations government truly reflect its’ people (face it, most of the government is white…but the country is not the same)?
Comparing Imus and Wright is not the real topic. The real issue is who will be the best president and what will happen to our country and us in the near future.
herjourneybegins,
Segregation does not just happen among so called whites, many of us who comment here, tried to have a discussion on Stereohyped but no one really wanted to listen to any other opinion but their own. I made the point in one of my comments (because they were telling us to basically get lost) that I don’t segeragate myself. People want to feel what? justified? The door swings in both directions.
http://www.stereohyped.com/category/don-imus/
I am Black. The comparison of Imus and Wright is important. You can’t ignore the fact that Obama treated both of those situations differently. If he is going to be my president then he needs to be fair to ALL Americans, not just African-Americans. Welcome to our site, herjourneybegins!