NYT’s Jacques Steinberg offers critical acclaim, quotes artists defending Imus and no surprise to I-Fans the IR Record producer describes Imus as a “DIVA”.
Source: New York Times Click|Here
The Imus Ranch Record
Tracks & Artist List
1. Silver Springs — Patty Loveless
2. Lay Down Sally — Delbert McClinton
3. Mamas Don’t Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be Cowboys — Lucinda Williams
4. You Better Move On — Levon Helm
5. Life Has Its Little Ups And Downs — Raul Malo
6. I Ain’t Never — Little Richard
7. I Don’t See Me In Your Eyes Anymore — Randy Travis
8. You’ve Got To Fight For Your Right To Party — Big & Rich
9. What A Difference A Day Makes — Willie Nelson
10. Give Back The Key To My Heart — Dwight Yoakam
11. What Happened — Bekka Bramlett
12. Welfare Music — John Hiatt
13. A Satisfied Mind — Vince Gill
Front Page NYP Click|Here
Obama: ‘You can put lipstick on a pig… Its still a pig.’
BOAR WAR!
BARRACK WALKS A SWINE LINE
More Imus nonsense from Jossip…
Jossip concludes with this snide remark… “With friends like Don Imus, who needs cancer?”
http://www.jossip.com/famous-black-musicians-dont-hate-don-imus-prove-it-20080910/
ChannelXRFR
I will add this to I Man page and run it through the myspace bulletin.
Meet the Real Sarah Palin Blog- has a Poll to vote for what Obama’s intentions with his pig and lipstick comment. I am a woman, this didn’t work on me.
I don’t have much sympathy for this pig bs from a woman who compared herself to a pit bull.
mtnherbal,
He either is a different kind of politics or he isn’t. My book he isn’t, this was too cute by far. I don’t buy it. He can deal with fall out. I think Sarah Palin, has probably been called worse.
Obama, he is already under fire from P.U.M.A. he thinks this helps? Why doesn’t he put up a big banner “Ladys don’t vote for me, I don’t need your vote”
In my everything is about Imus world regarding the pig remark. Why doesn’t Obama fire himself?
Ho: (noun) slang. A prostitute.
Pig: (noun) slang. A slatternly, sluttish woman.
ChannelXRFR
Is there a list of outlets that are going to carry the Imus Ranch Records? Something I can cut and paste into the Myspace Bulletin where the CD can be purchased with a link?
Oh an now the bad smell shows up. This isn’t going anywhere fast. Planned remark?
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/10/oh-nooooo-they-never-meant-to-liken-palin-to-a-pig/
Ree, I’ve been looking but haven’t found a list yet. Imus talked about: Amazon, Target, WalMart, Tower, iTunes. BTW Amazon has it for $9.99!
Notice B.O. changes his accent depending on where and who he is talking with
ChannelXRFR
The links are up for pre orders when it goes on sale I will put up link to Amazon for purchase online.
Did you look at that last link I posted, #8
did you see that captured screen shot at democrat.org for Aug 30th., it states: Is McCain’s pick of Palin trying to put lipstick on a Pig.
Did look at the link @ #8.
My first reaction, that’s a nasty comment. “Lipstick” is Sarah’s convention signature. Obvious he was refering to her. Knowing the problems Obama is having with women why would he say something like that?
I’ve also seen where Alaskans consider Obama’s stinking fish comment to be a smear. Something to do with the fishing industry. (BTW the “First Dude” is a commercial fisherman.)
ChannelXRFR,
It isn’t smart politics especially with women voters. It looks like this was planned comment intentional. I think there is chaos at the Obama campaign Aug 30th Website post if they were going to run with that, they should have scrapped it after she made her “What’s the difference between a Hockey Mom and a Pit Bull- Lipstick” They should have scrapped the Pig and Lipstick line, they obviously were pushing as early as Aug 30th according to that screen capture at democrat.org.
What does that tell me? There is a failure to communicate at Obama central. That “cheap shot” should have been scrapped, after Palin made her comments about Lipstick and Pit Bull.
I am out, I have to start stocking up, Ike is on the way, if we are under a deluge they say up to 8 inches of rain, clear up here where I live. I need to be stocked up.
Ree, Take care, be safe, check in whenever you get a chance.
Obama got exactly what he or his “handlers” intended out of that comment. He got attention. That’s all he wanted. Mission accomplished.
“The reaction set off a frenzied dive into the opposition research vault. Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton sent reporters a Chicago Tribune article published in 2007 during the Democratic primaries that cites McCain criticizing Hillary Clinton’s health care plan. “I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig,” McCain is quoted as saying about Clinton’s proposal.”
Sept. 9 2008 Washington Post article:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/09/09/obama-attacks-gop-tickets-mantra-of-change/
Can you spell hypocrisy?
Can’t debate the issues…so feign a horrible slight at the Pit Bull from Alaska.
Too Funny.
Donald, Don’t you think Obama caught in an Imus Nappy Headed Ho headlock is poetic?
Obamas’ exact quote:
“John McCain says he’s about change, too – except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics. That’s not change. That’s just calling the same thing something different. You can put lipstick on a pig – it’s still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It’s still going to stink after eight years.”
…but that doesn’t matter to the regime of mental midgets that would rather “wallow in a puddle of mud like a pig (with or without lipstick)”…. now would it?…
…of course not.
ChannelX:
Regarding post 18…
…after re-listening at work on my Ipod today to Imus on day one on his new show after being fired, and watching the progression from where he was then…and what he now says…I am beginning to wonder about that same thing.
I believe, if memory serves me correctly, that the Iman stated unequivocally that what happened to him after that NHH incident he deserved what happened, and what happened should have happened. After all this time since his return…I honestly wish he would personally go back and listen to what he said about it himself…because it has become obvious as of late, that he is truly deep down inside bitter over the whole episode.
He either believed what he said upon his triumphant return on day one…or he doesn’t. Maybe he was just bullshitting us all on that day, but he isn’t bullshitting himself…or is he?
Sometimes I wonder because he is still personally conflicted over that mess, and it shows as time goes by.
James Carville, in one of his recent interviews with the Iman, gave him some good advice: Maybe it’s time to quit looking into the rear view mirror so much…and keep your eyes on what’s ahead.
I could be mistaken (not the first time…LOL…but I do believe it was Carville who said it during the interview.
Donald Inks,
I don’t think Imus deserved IT. I still Don’t. I Am, still Anti PC., Obama, is getting a taste of his own medicine.
Perception trumps Reality, and Commerce trumps both.
This is going to stay saturated in the news cycle because of eyeballs-ratings. People will remember rightly or wrongly, and in or out of context. Just like Imus, when he was targeted by media monitors, from Media Matters for America. Then sent on an apology tour by Phil Griffin. No I don’t think Imus deserved, what happened to him, I still don’t. It was manufactured outrage and drama, hyper offense. What is happening to Obama looks familiar. Given his position on Imus compared to The Rite Rev Wright, and Ludacris. I think Obama should have seen this coming. If Sarah Palin can take it so can he. Everyone keeps saying she has to be tough for the VP position. I think Obama has to be even tougher for the Presidential position.
Hockey moms wear lipstick is Governor Sarah Palin’s signature moment. Try as they might the Obama campaign has been unsuccessful in taking away Governor Palin’s signature. Like Imus, who thought his comments had the cover of a Spike Lee movie, Obama used a tired political saying in an attempt to discredit the Governor. It backfired because you can’t refer to a women as a slut no matter how obfuscated the reference.
I’m enjoying this…
This really belongs in the last thread.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/geoffrey-dickens/2008/09/10/matthews-obamas-pig-not-sexist-palin-s-community-organizer-racist
Meet The Real Sarah Palin Blog, has accounts of personal memories from 9/11, Janet Crain and Don Collins, my fellow Melungeon researchers. I will try and post the link but they keep getting caught in the spam filter. I posted the link on Imus Truth also.
http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/09/death-of-innocence-on-september-morning.html
Week 1 of the NFL is over and talk about “anything can happen.” Chicago beat Indy. Buffalo beat Seattle. Tom Brady goes down for the season and everybody in the AFC now has a chance (at least this week). Oh yeah and Mel jumped into the lead in the I-Nation Pick ‘Em race with ChanX right behind.
Standings
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2 ChanX 11
3 PTBartman 9
3 London 9
5 The Ron Mexico Fan Club 8
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ChannelXRFR
I can’t get the link through the spam filter, there is posting on
“Meet The Real Sarah Palin Blog” by Janet Crain and guest blogger Don Collins, the second relates how 9/11 happening 2000 miles away, impacted his life personally.
Don Collins, remembers, a fellow Melungeon researcher from Albuquerque, New Mexico. Don told me once, one of his best friends is a neighbor of the Imus’ Don Collins is part of the Core Melungeon DNA Project, he has matched two of Obama’s relatives, the common ancestor is a Bunch that was residing in Bertie Co.,N.C.
I also posted the link on Imus Truth the last thread.
Don Collins remembers here: Meet The Real Sarah Palin Blog
Lipstick sticks for one more news cycle! Obama caught up in his school yard insult is outraged that this campaign isn’t more about issues?
Front Page NYP
READ MY LIPS Obama slams pig swill
Click|Here
Thanx ChannelX,
Have you Forgotten?
Not Me, Not Ever.
I’ve never forgotten. During the WABC news this AM they mentioned the lighting of the twin beams tonight. Will most likely take a ride over to Washington Rock here in NJ to get a look.
Incredible view of the NYC Skyline!
ChannelXRFR
Could you get a photo or a video of the lighting? I know when it is dark it is hard to light photographs. I would love to see a personal commeration of the day.
In the West and in my family in particular, our common agreement is “we wish they would put both buildings back up, and add a couple more floors”
God Bless America.
OBAMA ON LETTERMAN: PALIN IS ‘LIPSTICK’.. MCCAIN POLICIES ARE ‘PIG’…
What is it Imus always sez? “When your in a hole just stop digging!” You cant make this up.
Woo Hoo, Cousin Brent Mason is up for Musician of the year, this was just posted by cousin Dusty Pilgrim on my homepage this is so exciting. Remember before I mentioned he was on the last Randy Travis CD.
cousin Brent Mason is nominated again for “musician of the year” , keep your fingers crossed for him!!!!
MUSICIAN OF THE YEAR
Jerry Douglas – Dobro
Paul Franklin – Steel Guitar
Dann Huff – Guitar
Brent Mason – Guitar
Mac McAnally – Guitar
http://abc.go.com/specials/cmamusicfestival/index?pn=nominat
ions&partner=rm&cid=rm+CMA+yahoo+ABC_Country_Music_Award_Nom
inees
this will make him nominated 14 times and two wins at the CMA (Country Music Association)
http://www.cmaawards.com/2007/database/ArtistDetail.aspx?art
istId=141
for the ACM awards (Academy Country Music) -
nominated 1991 & 1992; won 1993 thru 2000; nominated 2001; (they took him out of the running to let others have a chance); won 2004 & 2006
http://www.acmcountry.com/content/index.php
his myspace site
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewpro
file&friendID=54451543
Huffington is a left Wing Blogger. She needs to be reminded of the inexperience Barack Obama has. But it will all come out in November. IMHO!
“Obama used a tired political saying in an attempt to discredit the Governor. ”
Really? Show me the transcript or a link to the actual speech…and back up the fact Obama was referring in any way to Sarah Palin.
“…you can’t refer to a women as a slut no matter how obfuscated the reference.”
So now he called her a slut?
Again, show me the transcripts or a link to the aforementioned accusations.
Political mischief as opposed to facts.
Of all people (or groups of people) who were outraged over Don Imus being fired for personally directed comments…
…here are those same people feigning moral outrage and revel in glee over something said not directed to anyone other than George W. Bush, and John McCain shared policy issues.
I’m not stupid. You aren’t stupid either. I know what you are doing and so do you.
The sad part? John “Wayne” McCain has allowed his Rove political handlers to put him in a place I least expected a “great war hero” and “Maverick” to be:
…hiding behind the skirt of a hockey “pit bull” mom.
With, or without lipstick.
I’m really enjoying this also…watching people tripping all over themselves trying as best they can to lower themselves to the lowest common denominator in order to stay away as far as possible from the issues our country faces…
…and trading all that in for a REAL “Bridge To Nowhere”.
Hell, if you’re in a hole…you don’t need a shovel to keep digging. This is “smack down pig wrestling” in the mud.
I’m sure the RNC will have an ample supply of mud for the entire country…up until election day and after, and if they win, even more mud for policy issues and answers to the problems facing the Nation.
It will also be as clear as mud…but it will cover the ground.
Ground Zero etiquette: A tale of two roses
By Michelle Malkin • September 11, 2008 10:41 PM
It’s a small gesture, but gestures matter at the hallowed grave site of so many murdered innocent Americans.
Barack Obama flings a memorial rose at Ground Zero like he’s a kid tossing pennies into a fountain at the shopping mall — or a spectator tossing flowers at a bullfight.
He doesn’t know what he’s doing.
(Clueless NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg copies him.)
By contrast, John McCain and his wife kneel and gently, somberly, place their roses down at the foot of the 9/11 tribute.
Tons of you e-mailed me about this. Here’s the vid for the rest of you who didn’t see it. It’s a telling cultural and generational distinction between these two men vying to be commander-in-chief of our nation:
Here’s another angle (you can see Bloomberg’s toss in this one): youtube video
Reader Joe W. also notices: “The first 30 seconds showed that Obama could not take the time to shake hands with the uniformed firemen (John McCain took the time) nor the construction worker with the American flag hardhat…He was painfully uncomfortable at this ceremony!”
Ground Zero etiquette: A tale of two roses
http://michellemalkin.com/
Gina Gershon spoofs Sarah Palin Click | Here
That was a great parody of Sarah Palin.
Now where is one of Joe Biden? That one asking that wheel chair bound man to stand up is going to be a Biden classic.
The one where he tells the crowd that Hillary Clinton is easily prepared to be President and would make a better Vice President. We are getting comedy gold out of Joe Biden and Sarah Palin.
For the love of Imus and and Charles’s sanity I pray to God they don’t start looking into Whittaker Chambers…
Rosenberg transcripts raise possibility of perjury
By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON – Newly released grand jury transcripts add strong evidence to the argument that the conviction and execution of Ethel Rosenberg in the Cold War’s biggest espionage case were based on perjured prosecution testimony.
In recent years, one of the two key witnesses against Rosenberg recanted his testimony. It now appears that the other witness made up her testimony. too. The witnesses were Ethel’s brother and sister-in-law, David and Ruth Greenglass.
Thanks to the work of a team of lawyers and historians, the government released the grand jury testimony that formed the basis for the charges against Julius and Ethel Rosenberg.
For More Click | Here
Tried to do a little early Christmas shopping. Amazon would not let me order more than 3 of the Imus Ranch Record!
Ree:
I’m not really sure as to where in Texas you are…but stay safe, and good luck.
My Father lives in Houston, and for once in his lifetime residing there…he decided to get out and move northwards.
It looks like a monster of a storm…and Galveston looks to be hit pretty hard.
Thanks Donald,
Yes it is going to be a mess, they say we are going to get at least 50 mph winds. I am so glad your Dad got out, Houston, always floods. They say we are going to get a lot of rain so I finished the yard work today. I was emailing my husband, this is a sizable storm “Monster” is the right description. My daughter told me, that something like 25,000 people stayed behind on that island off of Galveston, that is scary and crazy. San Antonio, should be okay, they should just get a lot of rain, they flood all the time anyway.
Up in Oklahoma, Kingfisher is getting ready for a flood. My daughter told me because of the jet stream, they are looking at three different weather events, to meet up at the same time. I hope, they don’t go through any tornado activity.
We might lose power up here but I stocked up for three days, and gassed up all the vehicles, my husband made me a list. We have MREs if we need them:) usually we are alright this far inland but when we were living in Alabama “Opal” caused damage clear up into the middle of the state. We were experiencing 70-75 mph winds with Opal We lost a lot of mature trees, and were without power for about 5 days the roads were closed because of gas lines, electric lines and the roads were impassable from debris. It was different though, my husband is handy and dealt with a lot of the mess. If this is the same, I will just bug out of here, and enjoy some hotel time. We have two dogs, I always have to find a place that allows dogs.
Dallas is going to get between category 1 and tropical storm up here. The Trajectory is by the time it gets to the Red River that is the Texas-Oklahoma border, it is supposed to turn into a tropical storm. Houston is supposed to get a 2-3 hurricane strength. El Reno Co.,Oklahoma flooded from “Lowel” Pacific storm, that came up from Mexico and went through Oklahoma. They already rescued someone up in El Reno Co., from the flooding. “Lowel” is up in Overland Park, Kansas now, and Kansas City, is looking out for Tornados. We are looking at really high gas prices if Ike, does the damage they think it is going to cause.
Have you guys seen this? It gets funnier each time I watch it….
Still a finger-licking secret
Saturday, September 13, 2008
The Post and Courier Click | Here
If You Like Michigan’s Economy,
You’ll Love Obama’s
By PHIL GRAMM and MIKE SOLON
September 13, 2008; Page A13
Despite the federal government’s growing economic dominance, individual states still exercise substantial freedom in pursuing their own economic fortune — or misfortune. As a result, the states provide a laboratory for testing various policies.
In this election year, the experience of the states gives us some ability to look at the economic policies of the two presidential candidates in action. If a program is not playing in Peoria, it probably won’t work elsewhere. Americans have voted with their feet by moving to states with greater opportunities, but federal adoption of failed state programs would take away our ability to walk away from bad government.
Growth in jobs, income and population are proof that a state is prospering. But figuring out why one state does well while another struggles requires in-depth analysis. In an effort to explain differences in performance, think tanks have generated state-based economic freedom indices modeled on the World Economic Freedom Index published by The Wall Street Journal and the Heritage Foundation.
[nowides] A TAX TO GRIND
Personal-income growth suffers when states adopt a tax-and-spend approach to fiscal policy. (Read more.)
The Competitiveness Index created by the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) identifies “16 policy variables that have a proven impact on the migration of capital — both investment capital and human capital — into and out of states.” Its analysis shows that “generally speaking, states that spend less, especially on income transfer programs, and states that tax less, particularly on productive activities such as working or investing, experience higher growth rates than states that tax and spend more.”
Ranking states by domestic migration, per-capita income growth and employment growth, ALEC found that from 1996 through 2006, Texas, Florida and Arizona were the three most successful states. Illinois, Ohio and Michigan were the three least successful.
The rewards for success were huge. Texas gained 1.7 million net new jobs, Florida gained 1.4 million and Arizona gained 600,000. While the U.S. average job growth percentage was 9.9%, Texas, Florida and Arizona had job growth of 18.5%, 21.4% and 28.9%, respectively.
Remarkably, a third of all the jobs in the U.S. in the last 10 years were created in these three states. While the population of the three highest-performing states grew twice as fast as the national average, per-capita real income still grew by $6,563 or 21.4% in Texas, Florida and Arizona. That’s a $26,252 increase for a typical family of four.
By comparison, Illinois gained only 122,000 jobs, Ohio lost 62,900 and Michigan lost 318,000. Population growth in Michigan, Ohio and Illinois was only 4.2%, a third the national average, and real income per capita rose by only $3,466, just 58% of the national average. Workers in the three least successful states had to contend with a quarter-million fewer jobs rather than taking their pick of the 3.7 million new jobs that were available in the three fastest-growing states.
In Michigan, the average family of four had to make ends meet without an extra $8,672 had their state matched the real income growth of the three most successful states. Families in Michigan, Ohio and Illinois struggled not because they didn’t work hard enough, long enough or smart enough. They struggled because too many of their elected leaders represented special interests rather than their interests.
What explains this relative performance over the last 10 years? The simple answer is that governance, taxes and regulatory policy matter. The playing field among the states was not flat. Business conditions were better in the successful states than in the lagging ones. Capital and labor gravitated to where the burdens were smaller and the opportunities greater.
It costs state taxpayers far less to succeed than to fail. In the three most successful states, state spending averaged $5,519 per capita. In the three least successful states, state spending averaged $6,484 per capita. Per capita taxes were $7,063 versus $8,342.
There also appears to be a clear difference between union interests and the worker interests. Texas, Florida and Arizona are right-to-work states, while Michigan, Ohio and Illinois are not. Michigan, Ohio and Illinois impose significantly higher minimum wages than Texas, Florida and Arizona. Yet with all the proclaimed benefits of unionism and higher minimum wages, Texas, Florida and Arizona workers saw their real income grow more than twice as fast as workers in Michigan, Ohio and Illinois.
Incredibly, the business climate in Michigan is now so unfavorable that it has overwhelmed the considerable comparative advantage in auto production that Michigan spent a century building up. No one should let Michigan politicians blame their problems solely on the decline of the U.S. auto industry. Yes, Michigan lost 83,000 auto manufacturing jobs during the past decade and a half, but more than 91,000 new auto manufacturing jobs sprung up in Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia and Texas.
So what do the state laboratories tell us about the potential success of the economic programs presented by Barack Obama and John McCain?
Mr. McCain will lower taxes. Mr. Obama will raise them, especially on small businesses. To understand why, you need to know something about the “infamous” top 1% of income tax filers: In order to avoid high corporate tax rates and the double taxation of dividends, small business owners have increasingly filed as individuals rather than corporations. When Democrats talk about soaking the rich, it isn’t the Rockefellers they’re talking about; it’s the companies where most Americans work. Three out of four individual income tax filers in the top 1% are, in fact, small businesses.
In the name of taxing the rich, Mr. Obama would raise the marginal tax rates to over 50% on millions of small businesses that provide 75% of all new jobs in America. Investors and corporations will also pay higher taxes under the Obama program, but, as the Michigan-Ohio-Illinois experience painfully demonstrates, workers ultimately pay for higher taxes in lower wages and fewer jobs.
Mr. Obama would spend all the savings from walking out of Iraq to expand the government. Mr. McCain would reserve all the savings from our success in Iraq to shrink the deficit, as part of a credible and internally consistent program to balance the budget by the end of his first term. Mr. Obama’s program offers no hope, or even a promise, of ever achieving a balanced budget.
Mr. Obama would stimulate the economy by increasing federal spending. Mr. McCain would stimulate the economy by cutting the corporate tax rate. Mr. Obama would expand unionism by denying workers the right to a secret ballot on the decision to form a union, and would dramatically increase the minimum wage. Mr. Obama would also expand the role of government in the economy, and stop reforms in areas like tort abuse.
The states have already tested the McCain and Obama programs, and the results are clear. We now face a national choice to determine if everything that has failed the families of Michigan, Ohio and Illinois will be imposed on a grander scale across the nation. In an appropriate twist of fate, Michigan and Ohio, the two states that have suffered the most from the policies that Mr. Obama proposes, have it within their power not only to reverse their own misfortunes but to spare the nation from a similar fate.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122126282034130461.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries
Vini, Vidi, Vici [One Shot, One Al Queda. US Army Sniper] 2U2
You want to talk about bringing jobs back to the US and making the US more competitive? Consider the US has one of the highest official corporate tax rates in the world nearly 40 percent, if the average state tax is included. In other words, US Corps are starting out 14 points behind in any competition with EU’s. You don’t need a Harvard degree to know 14 percentage points is the difference between an A and a C.
BHO is seeking “income equality”, JMAC is seeking “global competitiveness” that’s one difference in tax proposals. IMO the “C” student got an “A” in corporate tax policy!
School yard insults? Americans are not stupid they know a school yard insult when they hear one. BHO absolutely did call Palin a pig and McCain an old fish. The media’s defense of BHO, including Barbara Walters is losing credibility rapidly. Obama perpetuates the comment by bringing it up again and again complaining that he is a victim.
Imus’s NHH comment was a joke, the media called for him to loose his job. BHO’s comment was a slur and the media comes to his defense. Go figure.
Tuesday: Why Obama’s loss is HIS fault
Posted on September 9, 2008 by riverdaughter
Because 140 days in the senate, give or take, really *isn’t* a lot of experience, especially compared to somene who has spent two years being a governor.
Because it depends on who is in the top spot.
Because if you can’t look past the color of the skin to the content of the character, you shouldn’t be surprised when others start counting the number of X chromosomes in the karyotype.
Because calling half your voters ‘older and uneducated’ generally doesn’t go over well with them. (The new one is Reagan Democrats. Yeah, we holdouts are Reagan Democrats. Righhht.)
Because depriving the voters of the right to select the candidate they actually want tends to make them peevish.
Because even ‘older, uneducated, Reagan Democrats’ can do the math and can figure out that the numbers don’t add up.
Because scorched earth primaries directed at your own side leave half your party pretty fricking mad at you.
Because calling people racist just because they don’t think you are ready to be president is ill-advised, especially when those people are NOT racist.
Because failing to exercise control of your supporters when they go into bat$#&* crazy sexist mode over the VP pick of your opponent demonstrates a remarkable absence of leadership abilities.
Because expecting the opponent you cheated and humiliated to come to your rescue because she is more credible, dignified and presidential than you just points to your glaring weaknesses as a candidate.
Because you failed to plan for the ruthlessness of the other side.
Because you have failed to stop your fanbase from proselytizing like zombie Jehovah’s Witnesses on crystal meth, annoying and frightening every voter they meet.
Because you can’t stomp all over the intentions of ‘older, uneducated, Reagan Democrats’ as if they don’t matter (don’t roll your eyes at us!) and expect that you can get away with it.
Because rigging the general election is *probably* not in your power, leaving voters one last opportunity to nail your ass to the wall and vote for the other guy who’s actually lookin’ pretty good in comparison right about now.
This list is not exhaustive. One thing is for damn sure though: It’s time to stop blaming all of the bad strategy on Hillary Clinton.
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/tuesday-why-obamas-loss-is-his-fault/
Look out Sarah here comes the drive by
Guv Palin is a reformer. That means there will be a plenty of people who are going to complain including the people she let go with plenty to say about those who replaced them.
Well in my opinion we have heard too much about the Democrats and the Empty Suit Obama Campaign. Who really cares?
Democratic Party War Room
On the other hand if the news is good for McCain and Palin, it won’t get the same attention. The Washington Post outed it self over their Obama coverage in the past. The thing is though, his popularity is not on the upswing anymore so who does the Washington Post think, their readers want to read about? Old News or New News? The only thing you can find in the Liberal Media are attacks on Palin. The very far leftys, not Liberals, not regular Democrats. Can’t get it through their heads, that attacking Palin, makes the McCain/Palin ticket stronger. This makes their ticket look weaker, the more outrageous the smears, the more and more they are not taken seriously. Someone made the comment on digital journal, that if Obama wants to be seen as a STRONG LEADER, he needs to be able to rein in the loony left. Show us the Leadership qualities.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2008/09/14/wapo-tries-explain-not-putting-huge-va-mccain-rally-page-one
Shouldn’t the NYT be asking why the Alaskan Legislature is not investigating the Alaska State Trooper Tasering of a 10 yr old and still is on the job… Don’t know whether it’s being a hockey mom or just a reformer but it seems that Guv Palin’s administration was right to demand accountability.
But of course accountability meant clashing with the interests of the Alaska State Police Union, something the Alaska Democratic Legislators are not willing to do!
Alaska State Legislators defend Trooper Tasering of 10 year old boy This is not reform, this is one more example of everything that’s wrong with government.
Ree good to hear from you, was worried. Every body make it through the storm ok?
Here’s my quote of the day…
“Investors are like hyperactive first graders playing musical chairs.”
SAM STOVALL, of Standard & Poor’s Equity Research, on a downward spiral affecting the shares of financial companies.
Evidence Gibson Was Prejudiced Against Palin: Comparison of Obama and Palin Interviews
Friday, September 12, 2008
I compared Charles Gibson’s interview of Palin with his interview of Obama and there is much evidence that Gibson was prejudiced against Palin. He interviewed Obama right after he became the presumptive presidential nominee and he interviewed Palin shortly after she became the vice presidential nominee. So the situation of the interviews is similar. And because the situation of the interviews is similar Gibson’s extreme prejudice against Palin is very obvious.
For example, Gibson asked Obama a lot of questions focused on the positive aspects of Obama being a champion and breaking a glass ceiling for African Americans. Yet he didn’t ask Palin about her potential of breaking the infamous glass ceiling and the benefits that would create for women who are a much larger percentage of the U.S. population than African Americans.
Furthermore, Gibson often questioned Palin’s ability to lead, but he never questioned Obama’s ability to lead. This is outrageous because Palin has more political executive experience than Obama and far more political accomplishments. Another reason why it was prejudiced for Gibson to question Palin’s ability to lead and not Obama’s ability to lead is that Palin is seeking the much less powerful job of VP. And to add insult to injury Gibson even asked Palin if it was conceited of her to accept the vice presidential nomination, yet he did not insult Obama with that question even though Obama is applying for a much more powerful job.
Also Gibson maintained an almost constant sour face when interviewing Palin and his tone of voice seemed to imply that he was disappointed in her. I haven’t watched the entire Obama interview but the part I watched showed Gibson with a pleased expression on his face and the transcript shows that there was frequent laughter during his interview with Obama.
Even the camera angle was designed to be prejudiced against Palin. She is filmed from the side and slightly with her back to the camera. Although there are close ups of her face the long shot shows her back to the camera. It seems filming her with her back to the camera was meant to make her appear less likeable. In contrast, the film crew placed the long shot camera facing Obama so at all times when he is speaking the camera looks him in the face rather than looking at his back.
And Obama was asked much easier questions mostly about feelings about winning, breaking the glass ceiling and 2008 campaign decisions. In contrast, Palin was asked numerous specific policy and military strategy questions that required extensive knowledge about treaties, U.S. anti-terrorism strategy and world history. And Gibson misquoted Palin falsely stating that she said our troops were in an alleged holy war when what she said was that she prayed that we were doing God’s will. The following is a breakdown of the types of questions asked of the nominees:
Obama interview:
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=5000184
How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?
How does it feel to win?
How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling?
Who will be your VP?
Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?
Will you accept public finance?
What issues is your campaign about?
Will you visit Iraq?
Will you debate McCain at a town hall?
What did you think of your competitor’s [Clinton] speech?
Palin interview:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/11/raw-data-palins-interview-with-abc-news/
Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?
Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?
Questions about foreign policy
-territorial integrity of Georgia
-allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO
-NATO treaty
-Iranian nuclear threat
-what to do if Israel attacks Iran
-Al Qaeda motivations
-the Bush Doctrine
-attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan
-Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin]
There’s no doubt the Charles Gibson interviews showed extreme prejudice against Palin and extreme favoritism towards Obama. His manner towards Palin was much more negative. He asked her much more difficult questions and the questions were more adversarial. He constantly questioned her ability to lead but never questioned Obama’s ability to lead, all the more amazing considering that Palin was the only one with executive experience and the presidency is the highest level executive job in politics. The camera angles always focused on Obama’s face when he was talking making him the center of attention yet during Palin’s interview the angle often focused on her back apparently for the purpose of lessening the impact of her presence.
The questions, camera angle, and manner of the interviewer were designed in a way that favored Obama. Because Palin is a historic woman candidate and has been attacked with sexism it is reasonable to believe that ABC News is trying to harm her candidacy due to sexism. Of particular note is that Gibson asked Obama four questions about breaking the AA political glass ceiling but asked Palin zero questions about her breaking the women’s political glass ceiling. ABC’s prejudice against Palin was wrong and is blocking women’s progress towards equality. Palin is brave and strong and she, along with her supporters, will battle sexism and other forms of harmful prejudice in order to improve our world. This is a wake up call for ABC and the sexist news media to help them achieve their potential to be fair to candidates because fairness in the media is essential to a democracy.
http://journaloffeministinsight.blogspot.com/2008/09/evidence-gibson-was-prejudiced-against.html
STLtoday.com knows Bo well….
PT,
We are all okay, they were afraid of that storm, clear up here. It was so big but we got rain, no big deal.
I don’t mess with storms, we were stationed in Midwest City, living in Moore OK., when that huge Tornado decimated the area, we were living in. Our next duty station was KC., not quite out of Tornado Alley but we keep trying to get shy of the severe weather areas. People still mark time up in OKC., by that Tornado, that hit May 1999. I was in the bathtub with a bicycle helmet and a portable twin mattress pulled over me. My husband was looking out the patio window. He said to me, you might want to change out of your nightgown, I don’t think you want to be found in your jammies. We were lucky it missed us, they found a man who was taking the same precautions, we were all told to take, a middle room, no windows, get in the bathtub, cover yourselves with cushions, anything you can find. They found one man dead like that in OKC., after the Tornado. It just wasn’t going to make a difference, you really need a storm shelter, for that kind of Weather Event. I remember waking up the next morning to Soledad O’Brien she was working at MSNBC then, and she was down in Moore, and I was thinking -Why is Soledad O’Brien, here In podunk, Oklahoma, then we came out of our house and looked around.
Oh and that morning, I got a call from blockbuster video, my daughter had kept a video out to long, and they wanted me to come pay the late fee. I kid you not, I told the “woman” she had to be young, that the Police told us, unless you have a purpose, do not go out, stay off the streets. It was a mess the National Guard was out. And there was blockbuster video, worried about a late fee…It was mind boggling she insisted that I come down to the Moore store and pay it. The day after a F5 Tornado had touched down. Keating was Governor, and he was promising looters and con artist, don’t even think about taking advantage of these people. I will throw the book at you.
That Tornado is still a vivid memory, my husband has a Ram Pickup, with a lift kit, it is high off the ground, he had to go into work he was still in the Army so he decides when he leaves, that morning to take a look around, and it is like a bomb had been dropped. He stopped at a lot of the places, he frequents like Hock shops, he stopped in one and found this collector “Jack and Ron” Butt Mug, from the radio station we listened to in OKC., and he buys it, so he calls them up on his cell, and tells them his find, they are like, how much you want for that? He says no way, I’m not selling
Then he took off for work, and his commander told them, whoever wants to go help those folks, you are dismissed. So he takes off, he has a huge truck with a tow bar, and he is in Midwest City pulling people’s autos and chain link fences, out of their neighbor’s fireplaces.
I guess I have survived a few bad weather events, the one above and Opal. It only makes you respect mother nature more. If I was on the Texas Coast, and the authorities had told me to leave. I would have packed us up. and we would have been down the road!
They are saying about 10,000 in Galveston stayed behind. Houston is going to have a week long night time curfew.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080914/ts_nm/storm_ike_dc_105
I am so glad DonaldInks father left, there isn’t going to be a lot of utilities up and running for awhile.
Who Am I?
I am under 45 years old,
I love the outdoors,
I hunt,
I am a Republican reformer,
I have taken on the Republican Party establishment,
I have many children,
I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president
with less than two years in the governor’s office.
TEDDY ROOSEVELT
It doesn’t require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires to people’s minds. — Samuel Adams.
is he referring to bloggers?
New York Times ran 4 items and over 6,000 words attacking Guv Palin on Sunday. Polls indicate NYT style attacks are backfiring big time! Notice how Obama’s lipstick on a pig is creating its own backlash, especially among women. Turns out moms know a schoolyard insult when they hear one…
To the NYT and the ladies of the View ~ Don’t stop now!
Oprah Boycott you tube, this keeps up and nobody will be watching daytime tv.
Oprah could always try “midget bowling”, that’s usually good for ratings.
Gallup: Media Treatment of Palin
Posted by BLAKE DVORAK
Gallup looked at whether the public thinks the media’s treatment of Sarah Palin has been fair:
About the same proportion of Americans say media coverage of Palin has been unfairly negative (33%) as say it has been about right (36%). An additional 21% say coverage of her has been unfairly positive.
Gallup found that opinions, not surprisingly, broke down along partisan lines:
A majority of Republicans (54%), compared with only 29% of independents and 18% of Democrats, think Palin is getting a raw deal from the press. Three times as many Democrats as Republicans (34% vs. 11%) think coverage of her has been too positive.
Mans best Friend is Mans best friend, buddy the dog dials 911, when man has seizure. I love dogs.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,422341,00.html
ChanX:
I can’t find the long past thread which contained the prediction I made on the upcoming “Downward Spiral” concerning the economic meltdown, but I remember stating the reasons for it.
You asked me when was this dire scenario was to be expected…
…the first “shoe” dropped today. I believe we are dealing with a “5 footed” beast however.
In addition to the economic meltdown which is now gaining momentum, there is another aspect involved which has nothing to do with Wall Street as of yet…nor will be caused by the Sub-Prime shell game, and the secondary problem to come in the primary mortgage market…which has been grossly underestimated and has not garnered much attention…
To butcher and use an overly tired phrase…the “mother of all shoes” to drop is wholly tied to this:
The real reason why we were so concerned with the Republic of Georgia, the reason we invested millions of American dollars to Israel for the Israeli connection there, and now this:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1221142470441&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
If you think what is happening right now is somewhat discomforting…you “ain’t seen nothing yet”.
Just for one moment…even longer to let it all sink in… consider the implications of what is being contemplated.
From the above link:
“In its recommendation to Congress, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency wrote that Israel’s strategic position was “vital to the United States’ interests throughout the Middle East.”
“It is vital to the US national interests to assist Israel to develop and maintain a strong and ready self-defense capability. This proposed sale is consistent with those objectives,” the statement read.
The agency’s announcement came amid growing concern that the Pentagon was not willing to sell Israel advanced military platforms such as bunker-buster missiles in an effort to dissuade Jerusalem from attacking Iran’s nuclear facilities.
Bunker-buster missiles would be a fundamental component of an air strike against Iran, since many of the nuclear facilities, such as the Natanz uranium enrichment complex, have been built in underground, heavily fortified bunkers.”
One would have to wonder, according to the logic of the DSCA, what “self-defense capability” do 1,000 bunker buster missiles have to do with a defensive position…when they are clearly meant to be a preemptive weapon.
The Pentagon is clearly (as of just last week) dead set against this sale…so who exactly is behind the DSCA?
“The Under Secretary of Defense for Policy is the title of a high-level civilian official in the United States Department of Defense.”
Wickpedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_Secretary_of_Defense_for_Policy
Donald, I look at this a little differently. What’s happening now isn’t a melt down, it is a correction. We know who the losers are; Bear Stern, Lehman Brothers, Merill, Fanie, Fredie, etc. The question is who are the winners? The assets that these companies hold will be sold at discount in turn the new owners will give ‘em a workout. When the new owners pay 30 cents on the dollar, it’s a lot easier to work with the mortgagees, for example.
As for Israel, do you want to see a Nuclear Iran?
ChannelXRFR,
Didn’t Imus list the outlets, that would be carrying the Imus Ranch Record? Amazon, best buy, ???? I was going to run bulletins tomorrow for the I Man myspace page. Announcement and where to purchase. The Imus Golf Tournament is coming up soon isn’t it?
Ree He also mentioned iTunes, WalMart and target Target
ChannelXRFR
I am making a list, Mel mentioned, Barnes and Noble too.
ChannelXRFR
I won’t list every link but here is the one to Barnes and Noble.
http://music.barnesandnoble.com/The-Imus-Ranch-Record/e/607396614028/?itm=1
More and more Americans are becoming aware of how biased the NYT, MSNBC, and CNN (the worst one lately) et cetera really are. All of them are losing all credibility and can’t be trusted. Actually, they have moved from biased to outright lies.
I don’t know if this is factual or just a coincidence, but since the Democrat’s took the majority in Congress and Senate the Stock Market has fallen drastically.
The No Nothing Congress and Senate are not playing right. Thus we are at a standstill.
“Botox” leader of the house Nancy Pelosi is a one term loser in my humble opinion. And with her non-leadership the place is falling apart.
Mr. Obama wants big Government controlling everything forgetting the free market is the best way things are handled.
McCain on the other hand wants less Government involvement and more “Free Market” competition.
Obama is falling like a rock. McCain is gaining only because of his pick as VP, Governor Sarah Palin. No matter how inexperienced you think she is, she is more experienced than the head of the Democrat ticket “Barack Hussein Obama”. Reason why he is freaking out.
These are my opinions. And I will not back off of them.
Remember all the heat Sen Obama got for saying that he would hold discussions with Iran?
This is a very interesting article. Click | Here
Also take note of Baker’s endorsement of McCain, not exactly “ringing”
And while i don’t necessarily agree with Dr. Kissinger on a lot of things did you ever notice that he was the only major figure of the Nixon years not tainted with scandal . The man’s a national treasure. A true elder statesmen. Lil shrub would have been well served to listen to him instead of the Rummy’s and Rove and of course Big Dick Sure Shot.
PTB,
Your link took me to Imus On Air. What happened?
Whoops (damn that ADD/TBI) Try this Click | Here
Interesting Powell remains undecided. An endorsement for either candidate just before the election could be huge.
Boy, tuff times on Wallstreet maybe they could use some guns and bibles to cling too LOL!
GO TONY GO!!!
Word ‘Presumptive’ Prepares For Another 4-Year Hibernation
September 15, 2008 |
WASHINGTON—As the leaves begin to turn and another election season draws to a close, the term “presumptive” has once again readied itself for a four-year repose in obscurity and restful slumber. Plucked from the recesses of the English language to serve for the brief but heady interval between the first presidential primaries and the party nominating conventions, the elegant adjective has toiled earnestly these past nine months, scurrying through the lips and pens of journalists the world over, and shall now retire for a spell, far from the public eye. “Go now, you gentle political buzzword,” CNN political correspondent John King said. “See you in 2012, when our paths be fit to cross again.” King also noted the recent delightful retreat of the word “incumbent,” whose haughty three-syllable form plagues our election coverage every two years.
The Onion Click | Here
I’ve had Verizon FIOS for 18 months now and was excited to finally get channel 247. Sadly, watching Karith be awful is worse than listening to here be awful. Back to the radio or streaming for me.
Is she getting even worse?
I liked Karith this morning, I agree with the “Big Picture” it is American excess, who is suprized it finally caught up to a lot people.
Tony pointing out the foreclosures, I heard someone in the news cycle ask, Who turned the Predators lose in the Market, in the first place? My next question would have been why? On the other hand, who put a gun to people’s heads, and made them buy a house, they couldn’t afford? American Excess it is catching up to those people, who like to live in the “moment” When I went to school we had civic classes, and we had explained to us, really simply so even a child could understand. First you take care of your house, food and clothing, then some adults would put money away in savings. The rest is called disposable income. How many people, who took out mortgages doesn’t understand the basics? How many people’ with bruised credit, got loans they never should have been approved for? For what commissions? Supposedly, there are banking rules in place so back to my first question, who turned the predators lose in the market and why? If anyone ever writes the book that answers those questions I will buy it.
don’t understand the basics
Blame Game
Obama on Wall Street Woes is looking to blame McCain and the GOP for failing to monitor the mortgage-lending industry.
One question Barry O ~ where was Barney Frank and the House Banking Commitee while all this was going on?
For the past 2 years the Democrats have had legisaltive responsibility for overseeing the financial services industry, look where they have led us.
Ski, One thing I like about RFD is the videography. The farm and ranch scenes are awesome.
Superman where you now?
We now have the Imus Doctrine so if anyone gets interviewed by Charles Gibson
they know how to respond. Hire your friends, and get even with your enemies. That works for me.
X, Agree all that stuff is cool. I’ve even watched a cow auction with my son. You just sit there and kind of stare mindlessly at the screen while the auctioneer puts you to sleep. “Just one more cow”.
Ski, Nervous about pushing the wrong button on the remote and placing a bid. Causes a lot of stress…
Canary Wharf owner says Lehman’s London rent backed by AIG
Source: MarketWatch
AIG on the hook for 1 million square feet till 2033, you can’t make this stuff up…
ChannelXRFR
A Follow up, Barney Frank, Back that truck up.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/16/whose-policies-led-to-the-credit-crisis/
Ree ThanX for the link. Bush recognized the problem early on with the Democrats objecting!
From the New York Times no less. Sounds like Obama and the Democrats will be giving us more of the same. That’s not change!
Let’s put the blame squarely where it belongs…long before Barney Frank…there was Phil Gramm.
from Wiki
Later in his Senate career, Gramm spearheaded efforts to pass banking reform laws, including the landmark Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999, which served to reduce government regulations in existence since the Great Depression separating banking, insurance and brokerage activities.
Years later, critics of Gramm point out that this same legislation may have been pivotal in encouraging the corporate practices that led to the 2008 mortgage crises in America.[5]
Between 1995 and 2000 Gramm, who was the chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, received $1,000,914 in campaign contributions from the Securities & Investment industry.[6]
Later, as lobbyist for Swiss bank UBS, Gramm pressured congress ease it’s restrictions on predatory lending tactics by mortgage brokers. For his efforts, Gramm received $750,000 from UBS in a one year period starting in 2007.[7].
Rumors are Phil Gramm is a top pick for McCain as Secretary of the Treasury in his Administration…
THAT’S not change either…
But this is happening right now not in the future.
The future is always shaped by the past….hopefully, we learn from mistakes of the past, correct them, and be wiser…not dumber.
MSNBC is in trouble now, The Catholics are weighing in, Where is Cardinal Egan? Talk about a lot of comic material.
http://www.catholicexchange.com/2008/09/16/113768/
Top Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008:
Dodd, Christopher
Obama, Barack
Kerry, John
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html
I am sorry Donald. Cannot agree with any of your premises on the Republican Party.
You know Obama is doomed to fail. He carries his teleprompter wherever he goes. Meaning he is only a good reader, not a good “Off the Cuff” speaker.
In Mid-October a better picture of the “Messiah” will be seen. And it will not be pretty.
Sorry to disagree with a friend. But those are my feelings.
There is always a “but” when the Democrats get involved. I just can wait to personally help vote them out. Especially Pelosi. She should go back to wacko San Francisco
Gosh, will the Dems EVER learn??
Democrats pass hoax drilling bill
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/16/democrats-pass-hoax-drilling-bill/
The Dems are banking on the idea that the American electorate is stupid. A strong national energy policy is essential to our nations national security. Pelosi and company are playing games with our country’s future. Another step down the liberal path to the ruin of America.
Traitors
The Dems Oil bill is a great opportunity for McCain Palin to stand up and make the point “this is not change it is more of the same”.
I-Fav Kurtz with some campaign ad analysis. Funnny this was never discussed on the View…
Not surprising. It’s the same strategy Obama used against Clinton. Obama should stop the double-speak on how he doesn’t like negative ads. Disgusting. Pretend you’re above it all while you play the dirty game, more proof that Obama is a total fraud.
Shouldn’t we add MSNBC and CNN? Olberman and Mathews are unbelievably biased . How about Larry King?
Remember during one of the debates with Hillary, Obama was called out on the fliers he was mailing and he said “it wasn’t me, it was my campaign”. Shameful, the media was too in love with him to pick that up. He’s great at playing victim and masterful at smearing his opponent.
This reminds me of MSNBC’s situation. I made this observation awhile back, on inside cable news, when Imus was fired and the network started suffering on all levels. I thought they could sell it off, re tool, re brand and and bring it back “under different management” make it competitive. I thought the first thing they had to do was get rid of the suits, running it into the ground. In fact I thought that would have been the only way Imus In the Morning could return, to a new better run, revamped network.
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2008/09/nbcs-savior.html
You know when the Boston Globe declares Palin bashing over the top with examples, it’s excessive!
Enough of the Palin feeding frenzy
By Jeff Jacoby, Globe Columnist
….On the website of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, commentator Heather Mallick was even cruder. Palin appeals to “the white trash vote” with her “toned-down version of the porn actress look,” she wrote. “Husband Todd looks like a roughneck. . . What normal father would want Levi ‘I’m a [bleeping] redneck’ Johnson prodding his daughter?”
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Treasury 3-Month Bill Rates Drop to Lowest Since at Least 1954
By Sandra Hernandez and Agnes Lovasz
Sept. 17 (Bloomberg) — U.S. Treasury three-month bill rates dropped to the lowest since at least 1954 on concern that credit market losses will widen after the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and the federal takeover of American International Group Inc.
Investors pushed the rate as low as 0.233 percent as the loss of confidence in credit markets deepened. Reserve Primary Fund, the oldest U.S. money-market fund, became the first in 14 years to expose investors to losses after writing off $785 million of debt issued by Lehman.
“People are extremely cautious with respect to who they’re lending money to at the moment,” said Richard Bryant, a Treasury trader at Citigroup Global Markets Inc., one of the primary dealers that trade government securities with the Federal Reserve. “They’re willing to buy very short-dated Treasury instruments and forgo returns and in some cases pay for the privilege of knowing their money is safe.”
…but the fundamentals of our economy are sound…
Federal bank insurance fund dwindling
By MARCY GORDON, AP Business Writer Tue Sep 16, 7:49 PM ET
WASHINGTON -” Banks are not the only ones struggling in the growing financial crisis. The fund established to insure their deposits is also feeling the pinch, and the taxpayer may be the lender of last resort.
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., whose insurance fund has slipped below the minimum target level set by Congress, could be forced to tap tax dollars through a Treasury Department loan if Washington Mutual Inc., the nation’s largest thrift, or another struggling rival fails, economists and industry analysts said Tuesday.
Treasury has already come to the rescue of several corporate victims of the housing and credit crunches. The government took over mortgage finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and helped finance the sale of investment bank Bear Stearns to J.P. Morgan Chase & Co.
Eleven federally insured banks and thrifts have failed this year, including Pasadena, Calif.-based IndyMac Bank, by far the largest shut down by regulators.
Additional failures of large banks or savings and loans companies seem likely, and that could overwhelm the FDIC’s insurance fund, said Brian Bethune, U.S. economist at consulting firm Global Insight.
“We’ve got a … retail bank run forming in this country,” said Christopher Whalen, senior vice president and managing director of Institutional Risk Analytics.”
…but the fundamentals of our economy are sound…
The New York Times:
http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/17/washington-mutual-begins-auction-to-sell-itself/
“Washington Mutual, the struggling savings and loan, has put itself up for auction, people briefed on the matter said Wednesday.
The unsurprising announcement comes as the bank, which has suffered badly from losses on mortgages it had made, continues to stumble. Shares in Washington Mutual fell nearly 10 percent on Wednesday to $2.09; they have plunged 94 percent over the last 12 months. This week alone, investors have been frightened by Standard & Poor’s cutting of the bank’s debt rating to junk.”
…but the fundamentals of our economy are sound…
Still more deception (lies) from Obama…
Obama: Hey, remember when I came up with the plan for that stimulus bill? Democrats: Um, no; Update: McCain video added
posted at 9:58 pm on September 16, 2008 by Allahpundit
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I remember it. It was his finest hour. Not including the time he got Putin to back down in Georgia, of course.
Via Jake Tapper, breaking the hearts of his old friends at Salon:
“In January, I outlined a plan to help revive our faltering economy,” Obama said, “which formed the basis for a bipartisan stimulus package that passed the Congress.”
Is that true?
Democrats on Capitol Hill who support Obama say no.
Wanting Obama to win, however, none will say so on the record.
But media accounts from the time make it clear that even though Obama, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., all offered legislation to provide stimulus to the economy, congressional leaders looped them and their legislation out of negotiations…
[T]hough the bill that eventually passed more closely resembled Obama’s than either Clinton’s or McCain’s, those involved in the drafting of the legislation say it was more a matter of agreeing on a good idea [to issue rebate checks] and was not a matter of, as Obama claimed, his proposal having “formed the basis for a bipartisan stimulus package that passed the Congress.”
He didn’t even show up to vote for it. Not the first time he’s exaggerated his responsibilities in Congress either, as Ace reminds us, and of course he’s not a stickler about carrying out the responsibilities he actually does have.
He sure can give a speech, though, can’t he?
I look forward to the media showing 1/1000th the interest in this case of a candidate with a thin resume lying about his credentials as they’ve shown in Palin touting the fact that she canceled the bridge to nowhere — which she did. Exit question: Does a man who comes from the same professional background as Jesus really need to inflate his resume?
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/16/obama-hey-remember-when-i-came-up-with-the-plan-for-that-stimulus-bill-democrats-um-no/
“Does a man who comes from the same professional background as Jesus really need to inflate his resume?”
Well, Al Gore invented the internet. Not to be outdone…McCain invented the Blackberry.
Well, here is another reason folks can relate to Palin. Why don’t the bottom feeders, figure out that this is a “boomerang”
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/17/sarah-palins-private-e-mail-hacked-family-photos-raided/
The American model of free market capitalism is hardly “on the ropes.” It is, rather, our depression era regulatory and oversight institutions (and their pseudo-governmental counterparts Fannie and Freddie) that are on the ropes and badly in need of reform. Reduce…
John McCain talks about reforming them, but has offered no particulars, and Barack Obama talks instead about raising taxes on large employers and increasing the burden of health care costs on smaller businesses (through his “pay or play” proposal)—both of which would cost jobs just as we’re seeing the specter of serious unemployment. Neither candidate is well situated to speak to the present crisis, though getting there will be much easier for McCain than Obama.
Yuval Levin, Scholar, Ethics and Public Policy Center:
http://www.politico.com/arena/
It’s not all doom and gloom as some would like you to think:
The Middle-Class Wallet
By the Editors
By historical standards, tax rates are low, Fed policy is loose, and trade is free. Growth has been picking up. Resurgent inflation threatens the economy more than recession does. Most people have no reason for fear about their jobs. But a lot of people are getting squeezed by higher prices. A conservative economic agenda can address the public’s concerns better than a liberal one can — and John McCain has an opportunity to present one.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDY4YjYwZmM5OTgzNjc2ZjZkZGM2YTFjNjI2NDU3Y2U=
A “real sharpshooter” here…(duh)
“Palin also routinely does government business from a Yahoo address, gov.sarah@yahoo.com, rather than her secure official state e-mail address, according to documents already made public. ”
fromthe Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/09/AR2008090903044.html
“Barack Obama talks instead about raising taxes on large employers and increasing the burden of health care costs on smaller businesses”
LOL…let’s talk about the straight talking maverick’s plan for health care…which will count peoples’ health care benefits from their employers as INCOME that will be TAXED.
“A study coming out Tuesday from scholars at Columbia, Harvard, Purdue and Michigan projects that 20 million Americans who have employment-based health insurance would lose it under the McCain plan.”
…from The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/opinion/16herbert.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=John%20McCain%20Taxing%20health%20care%20benifits&st=cse&oref=slogin
You do the math…I already have.
The Real Culprits In This Meltdown
Big Government: Barack Obama and Democrats blame the historic financial turmoil on the market. But if it’s dysfunctional, Democrats during the Clinton years are a prime reason for it.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=306370789279709
“A conservative economic agenda can address the public’s concerns better than a liberal one can — and John McCain has an opportunity to present one.”
You mean, like THIS one?
“McCain’s Radical Agenda”
By BOB HERBERT
Published: September 15, 2008
Talk about a shock to the system. Has anyone bothered to notice the radical changes that John McCain and Sarah Palin are planning for the nation’s health insurance.
These are changes that will set in motion nothing less than the dismantling of the employer-based coverage that protects most American families.
A study coming out Tuesday from scholars at Columbia, Harvard, Purdue and Michigan projects that 20 million Americans who have employment-based health insurance would lose it under the McCain plan.
There is nothing secret about Senator McCain’s far-reaching proposals, but they haven’t gotten much attention because the chatter in this campaign has mostly been about nonsense — lipstick, celebrities and “Drill, baby, drill!”
For starters, the McCain health plan would treat employer-paid health benefits as income that employees would have to pay taxes on.
“It means your employer is going to have to make an estimate on how much the employer is paying for health insurance on your behalf, and you are going to have to pay taxes on that money,” said Sherry Glied, an economist who chairs the Department of Health Policy and Management at Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health.
Ms. Glied is one of the four scholars who have just completed an independent joint study of the plan. Their findings are being published on the Web site of the policy journal, Health Affairs.
According to the study: “The McCain plan will force millions of Americans into the weakest segment of the private insurance system — the nongroup market — where cost-sharing is high, covered services are limited and people will lose access to benefits they have now.”
excerpts from The New York Times
Donald, McCain never claimed to have invented the Blackberry. A McCain adviser made the claim that McCain’s work with the Commerce Committee had made innovations like the Blackberry possible. But that is a legislative accomplishment, something BHO does not have.
Having been through more then a few market down turns including a gas crisis, junk bond collapse, housing bubble, oil bust, savings and loan crisis, market crashes, dot.bomb, and the telecom collapse. During these events the predictions of doom and gloom and impending disaster proliferate. The end of the world as we know it? Not, in each case the economy has rebounded becoming stronger and more robust. Just like all those other times the markets will recover.
“in each case the economy has rebounded becoming stronger and more robust. Just like in each case the economy has rebounded becoming stronger and more robust. Just like all those other times the markets will recover.the markets will recover.”
Maybe. Maybe not.
The tentacles of these huge financial conglomerates have been intricately wound around the entire global financial markets…the difference this time: we are broke. We owe them, they don’t owe us. Our country, literally…is at the financial mercy of foreign investors now…not the other way around. What you are watching right now are the U.S. financiers driven down to the role of “beggars”. Ultimately…how the foreign wealth responds to our needs is uncertain at best.
One only has to see the reaction to our plight here at home and how it is rippling around the globe to see…this is not like “all those other times”.
We outsourced our manufacturing base, telecommunications… outsourced every single possible thing we could…except for maybe people in the service industry…and even now, they are getting hit hard. The reason? Lack of disposable income.
George Bush gave a huge windfall to the top richest in America in the form of a tax break. Also, to the largest corporations in this country. Did it produce jobs? No.
John McCain has embraced this same insane ideology…and the results will be the same.
ChanX I’ll trade you the Blackberry comment for the Al Gore/Internet one (Al never claimed to invent the Internet, he claimed to have coined the phrase Information Super highway)
Here’s an interesting take On McCain and the Commerce Committee…
September 16th, 2008
Did McCain invent the BlackBerry?
Posted by Richard Koman @ September 16, 2008 @ 9:12 PM
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My Bumper sticker will say “Don’t blame me I wrote in Nunov Z Ubbuff”
Joe Lieberman Lightining Rod?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/17/lieberman.surge/index.html?eref=rss_politics&iref=polticker
Donald, We are not broke far from it. The US has the largest most robust economy by far. There is no second place!
The problem we have is the US has locked up raw materials and have regulated heavy industry out of business. Take the Pelosi off shore drilling bill for example. Most of the oil is within 50 miles of the coast but this bill effectively puts it off limits. This bill places the control of this oil in the hands of the states when the oil belongs to the people of United States not the individual state.
PT, Having been there I can assure you that Al Gore was never at one of those Internet Working Group Meetings. However I do recall the White House being extremely supportive and involved in the world wide web. If Al Gore’s claim he was instrumental in that who am I to disagree?
Chanx:
We have, at most, 3% of the worlds oil reserves…tapped…and untapped. We consume approximately 24% of the worlds oil.
The math and the expert opinions of the fallacy, that if we “drill drill drill, right here, right now”, anywhere and everywhere in the U.S. …the entire inventory would not pull us out of what you just described.
Let’s not forget, that even if we drilled every drop of oil in the United States…it wouldn’t be ours. Because of the extreme profits that might be made, and even setting that argument aside…it would go on the world market.
We don’t have the money to even buy our own oil. We would be left in the dust by outbidding by the Chinese…and other countries that have become a washed in OUR money.
I will give you this:
Give me a promissory note or a signed statement by the American Oil companies…that every barrel of oil drilled in the the United States will be SOLELY for the exclusionary use of the Untied States….I say: Drill Drill Drill!
It will never happen, my friend.
PT – Obama and McCain are on the same sinking ship. Who survives?
Have I missed it or what do y’all think about the record??????
MTNHerbl
America!
Donald,
But we do have a generous supply of Natural Gas. If we get the silly politicians in the Government, the democrat party to allow this to happen. We can use this as an alternate to Oil.
This would be a start. And trucks (Long Haulers) could be converted to Natural Gas and reduce the amount of Diesel fuel they use.
Also the melt down of the Stock Market was due to improper regulations on Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and A.I.G, saving the American Taxpayer from Bailing out these Giants.
McCain wanted it. But the Democrats in power at the time blocked it.
The Electoral College will read like this after November 4, 2008.
McCain 280 Obama 172. It will not be even close.
Donald, The energy solution is not limited to oil it includes shale and natural gas. Offshore drilling is more then oil also includes natural gas. A couple of data points:
U.S. law prohibits the development of approximately 38 billion barrels of undeveloped oil resources (19 billion barrels onshore and 18.92 billion offshore).
U.S. law prohibits the development of approximately 180 trillion cubic feet of undeveloped natural gas resources (94.5 trillion cubic feet onshore and 85.7 trillion cubic feet offshore).
According to a Rand Study estimate, this Green River Formation contains over one trillion barrels of oil, with 800 billion barrels fully recoverable, or three times the current oil reserves as Saudi Arabia.
The federal government has locked up US resources and manufacturing with law and regulations. This is the primary cause of the off shoring of US industry.
X, Little mentioned are the coal reserves in the US. The state of Montana alone has enough coal to power us for many decades to come, 100% of requirements if necessary.
Converting coal to oil is old technology actually invented by the Nazis during WW II. I say turn the eastern half of Montana into an environmental waste land. Anything to stop our dependence on others.
Sadly the atrophy in Washington is driven by insane environmental laws and has Congress tied in knots. They are all like “deer in headlights” and led by one of the dumbest people in Washington, Nancy Pelosi.
Dig baby dig.
I say “IN-SITU PYROLYSIS”!
skiwolf
The truth is after the strip mining in Montana tore up Billings and Butte, there were laws put into place, to stop turning Montana into a waste land. I understand the sentiment but I have been there and done that
There is a place in Butte they call the Pit.
Meanwhile the worse congress in history looks like it is adjourning again. Even if the Democrats retain the seats in both houses, they need new leadership. I can’t believe that Harry Reid, actually makes me miss Tom Daschle.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/18/democrats-to-adjourn-again/
skiwolf
Butte, Montana, I have a cousin who was born in Butte. Montanans make jokes about people from Butte, like New Yorkers, make jokes about people from Jersey. Scroll down to the open Pit Era. I have taken the tour of Butte, don’t ask why
One stop is Evil Knievel’s home, the tour guide tells you how the IRS took it away. Butte, Montana, home of the cooper kings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butte,_Montana
One stuck in the trap why Montana, won’t be stripped mined.
Billings, Montana and Strip mining. This is eastern Montana.
http://www.northernplains.org/ourwork/energy/stripmining
LOL – looks like I struck a nerve on coal in Montana.
Sorry laree, but I say nuke the place. Nothing uglier than eastern two thirds of Montana anyhow. Place is a wasteland.
Sorry, but just the way I feel about it.
Anyhow, my point was simply that there are all sorts of options that NO ONE is doing anything about.
skiwolf
The last strip mining left such a stink behind, trying to repeal Montana’s laws on strip mining, would be a worse case scenario. We had an influx of Californians, who were leaving in droves for the NW. Californians as a rule always vote against Industry and for Environmentalism. Missoula is a center of gravity for this activity, the people need work but the Environmentalist choke out opportunity at every turn. Most Montanans- native to Montana, are good stewards- conservationist but they are not whole hog into the Environmental movement. I am sure coal can be extracted with less environmental impact. But the environmentalist won’t let them. The environmentalist won’t let the locals update ski lifts to attract tourist dollars because the lights on the mountain and the rest of the apparatus is an unappealing sight. I kid you not so when the rest of the country is seeing an economic upturn Montana’s unemployment is always high and so are wages. The timber industry got hit hard when the spotted owl was spotted. My family and friends were the ones, that were wearing t-shirts and caps, that stated “Spotted Owl taste like Chicken” GRIN. I would love to see someone come in and break the environmentalist hold on the state.
And No I don’t think my home state, should be turned into a “Waste Land” sacrificed for the rest of the States, if that is the answer to our Energy needs, we are in trouble. Many ranchers in Western Montana, would disagree that their lands is wasted because it isn’t scenic….been through Texas country side lately? Where our energy needs are concerned, I am with John McCain, throw everything at the wall see what sticks.
I meant to state wages are low.
Ranchers in Eastern, Montana, it is true the landscape looks a lot like North Dakota, that doesn’t mean we the rest of the Country, should rape the landscape. I need more coffee.
FYI All : Its the DEMOCRATIC Party – Democtrat-IC Party. Not the Democrat party. Its as if Bush is saying Nucula – instead of NUCLEAR. I wonder how many Repubs get these 2 words wrong? Surely, it can’t be a majority. Or…..is it?
All again: Laughing at myself – *DemocratIC – I talk about words – then mis-spell Democratic. Sheesh! Duh! to myself.
There is nothing democratic about the Democrat party. Just ask the P.U.M.As.
PUMA08.COM
Chanx:
I wholeheartedly agree on natural gas exploration. That particular resource we are a washed in. CNG is the way to go for converting our autos and trucks also. We have it, we should use it…and keep the profits right here…in America.
It’s cheaper, cleaner and abundant. It would be a great “bridge to somewhere” to get us to renewable energy and hydrogen/electric.
I have a strong feeling what is being played out “behind the scenes” are certain corporate monoliths that are dead set against relinquishing their long monopoly on American energy policies…
…and they will spend billions to keep it that way.
“There is nothing democratic about the Democrat party. Just ask the P.U.M.As. ”
LOL…there is nothing Republic about the Republican party either…after the last 8 years…it looks to become the “Maverick Party”. After watching the Republican party’s convention…they went all out to distance themselves from themselves.
Here is a “prime” example of what I posted yesterday…about “who has the capital…and who doesn’t”.
Morgan Stanley Said to Be in Talks With China’s CIC (Update2)
By Christine Harper
Sept. 18 (Bloomberg) — Morgan Stanley, the second-biggest independent U.S. securities firm, may sell a larger stake to China Investment Corp. and is in talks about a possible merger with Wachovia Corp., a person familiar with the matter said.
China’s state-controlled fund may buy as much as 49 percent of the New York-based investment bank, said the person, who declined to be identified because the talks aren’t public and may end in no agreement. Morgan Stanley resumed its decline on the New York Stock Exchange, falling as much as 22 percent.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ao0BD9Zuhy3E&refer=home
Lol – distance themselves from themselves. What is really scary is reading the list of Palin’s preppers – Former Bush this, former Bush that……
Natural Gas is a distribution play. Moving the gas from well head to gas station is no small matter. It will take a national commitment to establish the infrastructure to make it possible convert the transportation system to natural gas. The necessary political will stretches across local, state and federal government.
No matter the approach to energy self sufficiency there is no quick fix. There will be a transition period which will extend beyond the next president’s term. This is what makes it hard, current political leadership will take all the heat with little to no return.
First, the U.S. civilian branch of the Pentagon (despite the objections of the top Pentagon leaders) decides to cut a deal with Israel, to provide them with 1,000 “bunker buster” missiles…the most accurate in the world…
…and as you might call ‘tit for tat’…
“The head of the state arms exporter said that Russia was negotiating to sell new anti-aircraft systems to Iran despite American objections.”
I believe everyone knows where this is all heading…
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4781027.ece
Larre, My point that continues to be missed is there are lots of choices for our country to become energy independent. All of these choices require trade offs and sacrifice.
The problem is NO ONE is willing to make any sacrifice that involves there own self interest. Hence your feelings about the state of Montana.
I am from Colorado. I would be more than willing, on a reasonable basis, to sacrifice part of the state for shale oil production, done well with proper safe guards. In fact, I would even go beyond that to some degree.
“No matter the approach to energy self sufficiency there is no quick fix. There will be a transition period which will extend beyond the next president’s term. This is what makes it hard, current political leadership will take all the heat with little to no return.”
…and?
It has to be done…let’s get to it!
Of course there is no quick fix. Duh?
But if the Democrat Jimmy Carter, had done something – anything in 1981 where would be today?
Someone has to do something/many things NOW.
We need leadership that is willing to look beyond Monday. Sadly, that will probably not happen.
Pelosi is a moron. What an incredibly stupid person to be leading our Congress.
First, the civilian department of arms sales makes an agreement with Israel to sell them 1,000 bunker busting missiles…over the objections of the top brass at the Pentagon.
Now this:
From Times Online (excerpt)
September 18, 2008
Russia ratchets up US tensions with arms sales to Iran and Venezuela
Tony Halpin in Moscow
Russia snubbed its nose at the United States today by announcing plans to sell military equipment to both Iran and Venezuela.
The head of the state arms exporter said that Russia was negotiating to sell new anti-aircraft systems to Iran despite American objections.
“Contacts between our countries are continuing and we do not see any reason to suspend them,” Anatoly Isaikin, general director of Rosoboronexport, told Ria-Novosti at an arms fair in South Africa.
Reports have circulated for some time that Russia is preparing to sell its S-300 surface-to-air missile system to Iran, offering greater protection against a possible US or Israeli attack on the Islamic republic’s nuclear facilities. The missiles have a range of more than 150 kilometres and can intercept jets approaching at low altitudes.
…let’s hope China is willing to bankroll World War III.
“But if the Democrat Jimmy Carter, had done something – anything in 1981 where would be today? ”
I will give Jimmy Carter this much…he, at that time, was being honest and truthful about the need for energy reform…but the American people would have no part of truth.
Without the support and backing of the majority of the American people…nothing will ever get done. People in our country have now been “awakened” and “shocked into desiring what we must do”…by the simplest of things: $4.00 or more for a gallon of gas.
Yet what surprises me, is the lack of mental retention of the people of our country. Did we forget the gas rationing? Did we forget about “no gas” signs at the gas stations? Did the auto manufactures forget what people did with their huge gas hogs back when Carter was in office and we experienced THAT pain? Did the American people think that would NEVER happen again? Did the auto manufactures forget what gave sub compacts from Japan into our markets…and why?
So here we are again…and this time, if the American people do not DEMAND that things change…it will be like the movie “Groundhog Day”.
Skiwolf,
Did you read, what I wrote. I stated, I am with McCain on Energy throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. The stuff can be taken out of the earth today, without the damaging effects of yester year. I am saying do it all, do it all now. Montana is not the only state with Coal, and I am stating a fact the Environmentalist are entrenched in Montana like “Ticks” Google it, Environmentalist and Montana, look what they do to block a ski resort going up, just because it would ruin the view of the Mountain side. They don’t care, that it would produce jobs and bring in dollars to the State. The average Montanan would love some development just like Alaskan.
I was looking at the list of new affiliates for Imus In The Morning. I know there are more then these Imus has been mentioning every time one is added. Is there a better list then this one?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imus_in_the_Morning
Does anyone have an up to date list of Imus In the Morning affiliates? The one on wikipedia is old and I now there are more. Imus mentions a new affiliate when their added.
mtnherbal
lol – distance themselves from themselves. What is really scary is reading the list of Palin’s preppers – Former Bush this, former Bush that……
And those same people filled in Barack Obama on the same information when he started running for the office of the President of the U.S. In fact all the candidates got Prepped by the Bush Administration, it is standard practice to bring them up to date with foreign policy ect. you can google it. Sarah Palin, is the last one chosen so she is getting the same prep all the others did that were running through the primarys.
IMHO Obama will do anything to be elected. But it will not work for me.
Yeah I don’t believe that Donald. It only fits with your particular point-of-view. Carter was no leader. Like Pelosi he was simply another Deer In Headlights.
Ree…
I believe Mtnherbal was not referring to National Security briefers…but THESE rascals:
“Veterans of Bush team prep Sarah Palin for TV interview”
By Jim Rutenberg And Monica Davey | New York Times News Service (excerpt)
8:40 AM CDT, September 11, 2008
Tucker Eskew, a veteran of Bush’s hard-fought primary season campaign against McCain, has been a constant by Palin’s side this week, as she has hopped between SUVs and campaign planes, all the while reading briefing materials or receiving quick tutorials from policy advisers who have dipped on and off the campaign trail to visit with her.
Four of them were on the plane to Alaska with Palin on Wednesday night: Douglas Holtz-Eakin, McCain’s economic adviser; Steve Biegun, a former staff member of Bush’s National Security Council who has taken leave from his day job at Ford Motors to advise Palin; Randy Scheunemann, McCain’s senior foreign policy adviser, and Joe Donoghue, a longtime Senate aide to McCain.
Also accompanying Palin to Alaska as she prepared for her interview was Nicolle Wallace, a communications director for Bush’s 2004 campaign and, later, his White House. Wallace’s husband, Mark Wallace, Bush’s deputy campaign manager in 2004, has come aboard to help prepare Palin for the debates, and, presumably, to help in any final debate negotiations with Obama’s campaign.
Are you saying as a president ~ Jimmy Carter was an empty sweater?
(Apologies in advance, that was a gratuitous remark which could not be helped.)
“Like Pelosi he was simply another Deer In Headlights.”
Like Bush was on 9/11?
We’ve had quite a few Presidents from both sides of the isle since Jimmy Carter…
…and you want to tag Pelosi for lack of leadership that hasn’t been provided by countless Presidents and Republican led congress and senates during all that time?…
“…Republican led congress and senates during all that time?…”
I don’t blame them a bit. There is nothing Republic about the Republican party …after the last 8 years…it has now become become the “Maverick Party”.
Put on a new name and uniform….and they are “instant presto and abracadabra”!
The same.
“Like Bush was on 9/11?”
(Apologies in retrospect, that was a gratuitous remark which could not be helped.)
Sometimes the country gets hit…and hit hard. Whether it be terrorists, energy crisis…you name it.
Bottom line: what will it take for the American people to finally have had enough of all the bullshit…and DEMAND accountability?…
…from our congress, senate, and our President?
They supposedly work for us…not the other way around.
Way to go Iman!
The Imus Ranch Record is currently ranked #5 as top selling album on ITunes…
For accountability why don’t we start with the Leadership of the Senate and the House as they gavel the current session closed in the face of the US Financial situation.
Although BHO has scoffed, it is probably a good idea to have a 9/11 type study to establish the root causes for the financial situation and come up with recommendations.
Maybe there should also be an Enron type hearings and criminal investigation?
DonaldInks
That is why I made that comment to stdomsgirl, awhile back we shouldn’t take it easy on any of them. They are supposed to Govern, not Rule us. Imus is right when he says they will promise anything to get elected but how many times can they carry through on any of their campaign promises? Something always comes up. It is the private sector that is going innovate. If bureaucrats like Pelosi, don’t get in their way by piling regulation and legislation on them. The answer to our economics situation is “accountability” and “responsibility” our leadership is wanting, and that is nicer then what I wrote, to my older sister in an email this morning, it starts with Su and ends with cks.
“Maybe there should also be an Enron type hearings and criminal investigation?”
I wholeheartedly agree…just like the Charles Keating hearings.
Let’s have it ALL out.
Ree:
I agree with you…”It is the private sector that is going innovate. ”
Let the private sector work…however, let’s not allow giant monoliths that have had our country by the “you know whats” stifle and quash them. It’s up to the American people to speak loudly, and forcefully…YOU WORK FOR US…WE DON’T WORK FOR YOU.
And hold them accountable… any candidate, party, President, Congress or Senate.
okay
Probe to Begin on Short-Selling of Stocks at Wall Street Firms
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,424862,00.html
On “The Imus Ranch Record” on ITunes….it’s listed as #5 in country…not overall albums…but still pretty damn good! Imus, yesterday was saying it was listed as some other name on Itunes…but it came right up on search as “The Imus Ranch Record”.
My top three faves: Levon Helm, Delbert McClinton…and ole Willie Nelson.
Donaldinks
Imus was saying it was number #7 yesterday, without being listed. I tunes is a pretty big online outlet.
I’m reminded of my second favorite Fred quote…
Mom and I used that for year anytime some one did something we didn’t like.
PT……LMAO!!!!
“Like Bush was on 9/11?”
Dumb comment. Perhaps the only thing Bush got right during eight years was 9/11. Everything else he got wrong.
To think, dumber than dirt Pelosi and Obama, will do anything better is just wishful thinking.
Obama at best is a teleprompter waiting to tell him what to do. Guy is a tool of something I don’t know yet of what.
Frankly, I think he is just a tool of whoever gets paid to get him elected.
Who’s the hacker? Well that didn’t take long!
Ski – You dun and gone and ruffled my tailfeathers! I have listened to enough Carter bashing over the years and held my piece; but the man was not stupid. He worked in nuclear physics and foresaw the energy crisis. He even put solar panels on the White House which Reagan removed. The link below is to the posted speech. I only copied and pasted a small part that really sorta says it all. He may not have been the greatest leader and he certainly got jerked around by international politics trying, as they are today, to control the politics of the US. But it might help McCain and Obama and Pelosi and whoever else we care to blame (anyone besides ourselves) and any who are really interested to read the whole thing.
Jimmy Carter delivered this televised speech on April 18, 1977
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/filmmore/ps_energy.html
The world now uses about 60 million barrels of oil a day and demand increases each year about 5 percent. This means that just to stay even we need the production of a new Texas every year, an Alaskan North Slope every nine months, or a new Saudi Arabia every three years. Obviously, this cannot continue.
PRESIDENT BUSH’S AMAZING ACCOMPLISHMENTS
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1163304/posts
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What Bush Has Done Right
10 Things That President Bush Has Done Right on Civil Liberties
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/profiles/tp/What-Bush-Has-Done-Right.htm
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Top 10 Things President Bush Has Done Right
http://usforeignpolicy.about.com/od/backgroundhistory/tp/bushdidright.htm
Top 10 Things President Bush Has Done Right
http://usforeignpolicy.about.com/od/backgroundhistory/tp/bushdidright.htm
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PRESIDENT BUSH’S AMAZING ACCOMPLISHMENTS
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1163304/posts
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sorry for the double post!!
Jimmy Carter: The Worst Ex-President in History
By Jack Kinsella – Omega Letter Editor
http://vcrisis.com/index.php?content=letters/200408310659
During his four years in the White House, he presided over the worst economic downturn since World War II, allowed a bunch of thugs to seize our embassy and our citizens, and supported Philippine dictator Fernando Marcos, Pakistani General Zia al Huq, Saudi King Faud and many other dictators. But Jimmy Carter was a much better president than he is an ex-president.
In fact, Jimmy Carter holds the hands-down record for being the worst ex-president the United States has ever known. His post-presidential meddling in foreign affairs has cost America dearly, both in terms of international credibility and international prestige.
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The truth about Jimmy Carter
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41079
Carter was an appeaser unlike any previous U.S. president.
He signed one agreement after another with the Soviet Union that served only to diminish U.S. power in the world because we lived up to the agreements and the other side didn’t.
He had no problem destroying the ability of the U.S. military to fight because he didn’t trust American arrogance.
He told us we had to co-exist with what his successor would call “The Evil Empire” and accept that those under its dominion would be slaves for the rest of their lives.
He told Americans they had an unwarranted fear of communism.
And that’s why he served one disastrous term.
Carter was bad for the economy. He was bad for the military. He was bad for America. He left the country in a shambles – demoralized, broke, directionless.
Carter must be hoping the majority of Americans have forgotten what life was like under his presidency. For those of you who don’t remember, life was not good by any measure. We waited in gas lines for fuel. America was on the retreat around the world. The Soviet Union was advancing on all fronts.
Even Carter seemed to grasp that something was wrong toward the end of his first term. So he famously blamed Americans rather than himself. He told us we were living in a “malaise.” He didn’t understand that he was the primary cause of that malaise.
Nor has his understanding of politics improved any in the last 24 years.
#191 – Sounds like about where we are now.
Bush’s Brain
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2004/dec/06/00011/
A few days later, Brokaw went on Don Imus’s radio show and revealed just how much it bugged Kerry that I had said Bush probably had a slightly higher IQ. After the cameras had stopped rolling, Kerry had rationalized to Brokaw, “I must have been drinking the night before I took that military aptitude test.”
mtnherbal
Not quite, but that’s what the liberals are hoping for. sad.
Aw heck, “My Mama Done Told Me” – Never discuss sex, politics or religion. If you agree, what’s the point and if you disagree, you aren’t going to convince anyone.
So back to the record! I love the Raul Malo. What a beautiful voice. And Levon and Delbert. Just some great picks.
Herbal, I would be the last to wish to ruffle your tail feathers.
However, having not seen your tail feathers……. Never mind lol. Just a joke.
None of these people I guess can be called, “stupid”. Well except for Pelosi, she is really stupid. Anyhow, Carter was beyond not effective.
Difference I guess is what you get done vs. what you talk about. In our life time, or at least mine. only three Presidents have actually done something. Think about it.
1) Johnson
2) Nixon
3) Regan
Dispute that ?
PS – Bubbah did but it’s on the dress so doesn’t count.
Would have to think a while on that Ski ’cause I’ve a few more years on the tailfeathers than you. However, it interested me that two of your picks came out of Congress.
mtnherbal
I TOTALLY AGREE I LOVE Raul Malo! He has a beautiful voice!! I know I will love more, waiting for my copy to arrive.
Ronald Reagan
Trick question that I know this group will know the answer.
Which president signed more civil rights laws than any other?
Herbal, you get to go first.
Roe v Wade will never be overturned. Kim Gandy in my opinion is drinking that Kool Aid, or taking it I.V. style. Good God. What do these feminist’s want?
The answer is Reagan Ski Wolf. In his 8 years he accomplished much and corrected the imcompetence of the Carter administration. Another Democrat.
We cannot afford what Obama is supporting. He is a waffler. Needs over 300 people to help him with Foreign Policy. And if he (Obama) thinks gaffe machine Biden will help him, he has a lot to learn.
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Breaking News Alert
The New York Times
Friday, September 19, 2008 — 7:11 AM ET
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S.E.C. Issues Temporary Ban on Short-Selling
The Securities and Exchange Commission issued a temporary ban
Friday morning on short sales of 799 financial stocks,
following a similar action in Britain the day before. Short
selling — a bet that a stock price will decline — has often
been blamed for forcing prices down in times of market
stress.
Ahoy there Mateys,
Today be Talk Like a Pirate dayClick | Here. Have a good one.
Chickaboomer hits it out of the park…
Lots of numbers here, so I’ll net it out…
Proving once again distortion is Obama’s middle name.
I-Fav Pat O’Brien is out on his a**! Page Six Click|Here
Kernell mum on allegations son hacked into Palin’s e-mail
knoxnews.com
MEMPHIS — State Rep. Mike Kernell declined Thursday to respond to online allegations that his son — a student at the University of Tennessee Knoxville — hacked into Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin’s personal e-mail account.
“My son’s the one in question, and I can’t comment on him,” said Kernell, a Memphis Democrat. Read|More
ChannelXRFR, So there is a Tennessee Democrat Politician-Kernell and Hacking -Palin’s private email, and the Media, AP and GAWKER. This is simmering Media/Politics/Hacking. Add FBI and Secret Service. Who knows how this will end? How did Watergate start again?
Has anyone heard an outcry from the Dems concerning the violation of Palin’s privacy? Obviously Poppa Hacker isn’tsaying much!
Right now this is being played as a college prank!!! David Kernell hacked into Palin’s account looking for incriminating information with the intent to do serious harm. According to reports he went through the emails and came up empty. Disappointed, he realized what he did was seriously illegal he panicked. He posted the password he changed the account to (popcorn) a site of malevolents hoping they would do some harm. Unfortunately for David a “White Knight” came along changed the password and notified one of the Palin family friends.
Secret Service and FBI have launched an investigation interviews, financial records, Internet accounts, hard drives, etc. There is a a trail, where will it lead?
BTW changing the password to popcorn by kernell ~ clever!
goiman, If this had happened to someone within the Obama campaign we would be scheduling a crucifixion!
Some incredible photos of Hurricane Ike and the aftermath.
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html
Video of Senator Kernell
http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/09/tennessee-reps-son-hacker.html
Singing Conservatives check out “the right brothers” Their song “the list” James Carville made their list.
http://www.myspace.com/therightbrothers
No such thing as coincidence.
http://www.melissaclouthier.com/2008/09/19/tennessee-democratic-congressmans-son-hacked-sarah-palins-email/
Channel, the Dems are to busy complaining about the privacy rights of some Islamic Terrorist, and worry about the patriot act cramping some Muslim’s style.
All this Wall Street meltdown made me think of this…
…we are witnessing a system that privatizes profits and socializes losses…. and some experts are saying this bailout will cost about 1 trillion dollars (so far).
After this week, I don’t know what to think of this mess anymore. I do know it’s big…and I’m trying to think of a silver lining to this whole fiasco…and if any real lessons will be learned from it.
did Rubino? say that about privatizing profits and socializing losses? I think I read that somewhere??
I believe it was Rubino, who said and thought those very thoughts…I should have credited him for his words. Those words are stuck in my mind right now. One cannot help but believe he was absolutely correct. I read a post somewhere on some of Rubino’s thoughts on the subject. What makes me so angry is that more people haven’t come around to the very same conclusion.
I’ll see if I can find where the post was I read, and post it here.
goiman:
I’m trying to google Rubino to find that article…is that the correct spelling?
goiman:
Nevermind… it’s John Rubico…
But I’ll be damned if I can find the article now…
John Rubino is the author of The Coming Collapse of the Dollar (co-written with James Turk), How to Profit From the Coming Real Estate Bust (Rodale, 2003), and Main Street, Not Wall Street (William Morrow, 1998). A former Wall Street financial analyst and columnist with theStreet.com, he currently writes for Fidelity Magazine and CFA Magazine He lives in Moscow, Idaho.
Here’s what he said way back in 2007: (excerpt)
“However it plays out, the result will be a world in which competitive devaluations drive the price of all the major currencies inexorably towards their intrinsic value, which is the paper on which they’re printed. But it might be a while before most people notice. As surreal as this sounds, if the major fiat currencies are falling more or less in tandem, to unsophisticated eyes they’ll continue to appear to be stable. That’s been the case for the past few years, with the prices of oil, gold, healthcare and food soaring (which is another way of saying that paper currencies are plunging) while mainstream analysts proclaim inflation low and many of the world’s currencies “strong.”
But as this process accelerates, the fiction of strong and weak currencies will be harder and harder to sell. Inflation will migrate from “good” things like houses and stocks to life’s necessities, and the link between prices and the unit in which prices are expressed will become clear to everyone. Then the death spiral begins.”
http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/rubino/2007/0720.html
I found it…
“We’re essentially continuing a system where profits are privatized and…losses socialized,” Roubini said, adding that auto makers, airlines and other struggling businesses would no doubt be asking for government help too.”
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2008/09/17
On Friday’s Mark Levin Show: September 2008 will be remembered as the time when socialism really took hold of this country. There is a reason the politicians are running for the hills and hiding – because they are the proponents and the ones who are at fault for the current mess we are in. Their finger prints are all over this the problem. We aren’t the ones at fault here; we weren’t the ones in charge of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, etc. They didn’t let capitalism and the free market work, and thus you are seeing what happens in a socialist society – financial disarray, and more poor people.
http://marklevinshow.com/
Little Richard’s tribute page is promoting the IMUS RANCH RECORD. Little Richard is WONDERFUL!
http://www.myspace.com/littlerichardtribute
Apparently J-MAC brought the wrong giveaways to the View!
Wonder what Bill Clinton is bringing the ladies for his appearance next week?
That is “NOT” why I will not vote for him.
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Check out the new I Fan map, from the I man myspace page now I Fans in Iceland, Africa, Alaska ect….I need PT to tell me how to count the members. The world is flat, all it takes is a computer to stream online. I wish that Patrick, would put up a website for webisodes, for Imus in the Morning, let people watch online, like they, listen streaming and in podcast. New Media. African countries could really use some RFD TV. Some farming and ranching know how, could help the dark continent.
http://www.frappr.com/?a=constellation_map&mapid=137440520595
Or you can view the map here and if you have a myspace page you can add I Man. Stick the map.
http://www.myspace.com/getoffmyphone
venividivici2u, I commend you for showing the right wing opinion of the Democrat (Socialist) agenda.
They lie like dogs. I had recorded Levin’s show. But knowing now that it’s up on his website in it’s entirety I will not do that again.
Thank you. And enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Excerpts from:
“Atlas Shrugged: A Reaction to the Paulson Plan (From A Former Goldman Partner)”
by Greg Zehner
“Ayn Rand warned us this would happen. In the classic, Atlas Shrugged, she wrote about governmental powers manipulating markets in order to advance political concerns. Like the book, we do not seem to have the political will to take the correct, but painful, road to recovery. By propping up the financial system with the band-aids of trading restrictions and an explosion of the government’s already untenable balance sheet, the necessary adjustments to the financial system are prevented from occurring.”…
“The free markets are meant to function as a corrective mechanism for companies, and for governments for that matter too. When a company is doing well, its stock is meant to rise, when it does poorly, the opposite should happen. The change in short selling rules has circumvented that feedback mechanism. Financial companies are now insulated against market discipline. The consequences could be disastrous because the global markets will ultimately provide the discipline that the US authorities lack the courage to administer. The result will be nothing short of the destruction of the US dollar as a reserve currency.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-zehner/atlas-shrugged-a-reaction_b_127749.html
DonaldInks,
You and I, were already having this discussion, huffingtonpost, is lagging:)
Who is John Galt? Who is trying to stop the motor of the World? And don’t tell me Brad Pitt, GRIN.
Atlas Shrugged, “bureaucrats” we don’t have to vote them into office. Look who is running against Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the house. Cindy Sheehan, Hugo Chavez’s best photo buddy.
In an ironic moment the enablers of short selling are now the biggest complainers. In fact Bear Sterns was the predominant clearer of shorts before their collapse! Poetic justice….
And here is another ironic moment. While both parties are demanding increased regulation over the financial industry it may have been increased regulation which caused the current situation.
Sarbanes Oxley forced financial institutions to write down performing mortgage securities based upon the market price for the securities instead of the performing value. Setting off a chain reaction.
For example 97% of loans are performing but the market has discounted the security to 30%.
Imagine if the Congress would have simply revised Sarbanes Oxley to more correctly value mortgage securities. The past week as well as the government bailout could have been avoided.
The astute investor will be following the trail of the “distressed securities”. As in any meltdown there is gold in them hills!
My thoughts have been running to Ayn Rand much in recent years, beginning with the railroads, then to autos and airlines. One of my favorite memories is when she appeared on Phil Donahue. I would love to have a tape!
Over the years have tried to turn people onto Atlas Shrugged – with moderate success. Now we are wishing more had read and heeded her warnings…….Required reading in high school?
My exposure to Mayor Bloomberg has been limited, but was extremely impressed with his conversation on Meet the Press this am. As I have read various blogs and sites, ‘am alarmed at the vehemence in the difference of opinions. A return to civility and departure from such severe bipartisan politics, as emphasized by Bloomberg today, is, imo, going to be required to help our country survive these crises and get our economy moving again. Bloomberg in ‘12?? What do you folks who have been watching him think of his policies?
Ski – Sorry, missed your question; have been working.
Don’t know if Washington signed it, but perhaps the most extensive “civil rights” legislation is the Bill of Rights. Just seems like we have been spending years bringing it to pass.
Now to the Ryder Cup!!!!!!
mntherbal,
I have had the same thought “Atlas Shrugged” required reading before people get out of high school.
Sarah Palin’s genealogy, I might be a distant cousin. The Stephen Hopkins family.
http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/09/all-in-family.html
All of a sudden they all are remembering Ayn Rand, too late but remembering all the same. This ones from TIME.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1842879,00.html?xid=rss-topstories
Start the Car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TuVEeOixUc
DonaldInks and I were discussing “Atlas Shrugged, back when T Boone Pickens, pitched his wind alternative.
Hey
There is a new Primus Poll, for best Primus Single, on the I Man page scroll down the left side, watch the three top Primus Videos picked yesterday and vote.
1 Winonna’s Big Brown Beaver
2 Shake Hands With Meat
3 Mr Krinkle
Then vote in the Poll so far Winonna’s Big Brown Beaver is leading* but the poll just opened.
4 Primus Sucks if you chose all the Above.
http://www.myspace.com/getoffmyphone
MtnHerbal (and all)
Ask and ye shall receive (its up to you it get it on tape/disk) lol. Isn’t this internets thing just the cat’s pajamas? The Bee’s Knees? The Bop in the bop-shoo-bop. I’m sure glad Al Gore done invented it. Nows Ise gots to gets me one of dem BlackBerry doohickeys John McCain done invented to make Al gore’s Internets better. (if you listen to Music on a Blackberry is it a BlackBerry Jam?)
Ayn Rand on Donahue Click | Here
PT – you are too, too good; and “you’re” soundin’ more like Jelly Roll’s Jam!
Life is good. USA won the Ryder – with flair!
Oberman is at Yankee Stadium so I can watch Sun. nite football.
But I can’t get into “It’s only Monday, It’s only Monday.”
I’ll vote for whoever promises to change so we have Sat. and two Suns. each week.
Hello McImus, These distressed Mortgage Securities have bad debt but they also have good debt in there too. In fact the preponderance is good debt!
What happens with the good debt? An example, the feds buy Imus’ mortgage(s) for 30% of its value. Even I could make money on that mortgage! There is an opportunity for the Federal Government to restructure these securities to recover over 90% of the value.
The Federal Government could have let this debt work itself out on the open market. walk it through bankruptcy courts etc. That would have taken time, probably 2 to 3 years, which would have been catastrophic. The way it is being handled the government is in a position to be a market maker to work the obligations out.
It’s time for Col Jack to stop by and explain to Imus the value in “distressed” securities.
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Excerpts from:
Article by Jason Linkins
“Dirty Secret Of The Bailout: Thirty-Two Words That None Dare Utter”
September 22, 2008 02:06 PM
“A critical – and radical – component of the bailout package proposed by the Bush administration has thus far failed to garner the serious attention of anyone in the press. Section 8 (which ironically reminds one of the popular name of the portion of the 1937 Housing Act that paved the way for subsidized affordable housing ) of this legislation is just a single sentence of thirty-two words, but it represents a significant consolidation of power and an abdication of oversight authority that’s so flat-out astounding that it ought to set one’s hair on fire. It reads, in its entirety:
Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.”…
“But one cannot overstate this: Section 8 is a singularly transformative sentence of economic policy. It transfers a significant amount of power to the Executive Branch, while walling off any avenue for oversight, and offering no guarantees in return. And if the Democrats end up content with winning a few slight concessions, they risk not putting a stop-payment on the real “blank check” – the one in which they allow the erosion of their own powers.
Over in the Senate, Christopher Dodd has proposed a bailout legislation of his own, which critically calls for “an oversight board that not only includes the chairman of the Federal Reserve and the SEC, but congressionally appointed, non-governmental officials” and would require the President to appoint an “independent inspector general to investigate the Treasury asset program.” In Dodd’s legislation, Section 8 is effectively stripped from the bill.
Nevertheless, the fact that Section 8 of the Paulson plan seems to strike few as a de facto dealbreaker can and should astound. The failure of Congress to hold the line on this point would be truly embarrassing. But if we make it through this week with nobody in the press specifically informing the public about the implications of this single sentence – in the middle of a complicated bill, in the middle of a complicated time – then right there, you have the single largest media failure of this year.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/22/dirty-secret-of-the-bailo_n_128294.html
PTBartman:
Thank you for the link to Ayn Rand on Donahue.
Much appreciated!
The Huffington Post is so radically left I only quote the fair and balanced articles. Nothing that supports the Democratic Party.
It was they that blocked the regulation that Bush proposed in 2003 and 2005. And though McCain voted for it, he made a speech against it. And this was when the Republicans held both houses. Now that sounds a little mixed up.
I am so fed up with this Presidential election I could spit. Whatever or whoever get’s in as President of the United States will never fix the problems the liberals have created. And we will never have Universal Health care. That is a myth or a pipe dream.
That is my opinion. Argue it if you may, I shalll not debate.
Chanx:
“value in “distressed” securities” might look good…even feasible, in good times. These are not “good times”. As of right now, our entire financial system and way of living are at a point of going off a precipice…
…if the above statement were not true…you would not have witnessed what transpired and peaked just last week and the “scared sh*tless” look on both Republican and Democratic faces 24/7 on the news outlets.
What gets to me, is nobody will say what EXCACTLY Paulson told them was REALLY happening that suddenly made them start working together to get something done (for a change) as opposed to the usual polarity that the American people are accustomed to over the past years.
It runs deeper than you might think…and far more serious than the American people have been led to believe.
I’ve never been a Greenspan fan so this article from the Financial Times fits well with my POV.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/32b85c72-859b-11dd-a1ac-0000779fd18c.html
“I only quote the fair and balanced articles.”
As far as “fair and balanced articles” go…I’m not afraid to broaden my horizons on thinking from either the left, or the right side of the isle…or even the independent thinkers of our time. Lately…I’ve been reading a lot of George Will, and his assessment of things as of late.
There is plenty of blame to go around on both sides of the isle, which is why I never subscribed to any particular party. My interests are is the soundness of our Country, and cutting through the usual soundbites from any side…and getting some valuable information from some rather intelligent observers…no matter what ideology they might subscribe to, or where they may post on.
That, my friend, is being “fair and balanced”.
I seem to recall a lot of talk about an ownership society, and how if people were invested, they would take more active role in their communities ect.. good for American Society. Because once you start paying taxes, you start caring where the money goes. So blaming people, who knew they couldn’t afford or manage a mortgage, being given to them by the so called ruling class. Perhaps they accepted, that their so called betters, knew what they were doing? The rest, well some of it was just plain old fraud.
Donald – Yesterday either George S or Brokaw was really pushing Paulson on the no oversight deal. Also, it was very apparent that Dodd was aware, not only of the gravity of the situation, but the implications of putting that much power in one man’s hands. As Imus pointed out, it seemed obvious Paulson was just one jump ahead of a fritter; while he may be very qualified (see Bloomberg), he was definitely showing the stress.
We’ve learned what happens when the exec. branch usurps power; we don’t need to be crowning King Cheney!
QUOTATION OF THE DAY
“At first it was, ‘thank goodness the cavalry is coming,’ but what exactly is the cavalry going to do?”
DOUGLAS W. ELMENDORF, a former Treasury and Federal Reserve Board economist, on the $700 billion bailout plan.
100-year anniversary of ‘Merkle’s Boner’
How a century-old gaffe altered history … and put heat on 2008 North Siders
By Ed Sherman | Special to the Chicago Tribune
9:32 PM CDT, September 22, 2008
The Cubs and Fred Merkle are linked by history. It has been a rough century for both.
Tuesday marks the 100th anniversary of the controversial play that landed Merkle on the short list of baseball’s all-time goats. The beneficiaries were the Cubs, who without “Merkle’s Boner” almost surely would not have gone on to win the 1908 World Series.
If not for the young New York Giants infielder, the Cubs’ last title would have come in 1907, and their century of futility would have been acknowledged, if not exactly celebrated, last year. Instead they have played the 2008 season against the backdrop of a century without a championship, which attaches a certain urgency to the playoff campaign that gets under way next week.
Merkle was an early version of Steve Bartman, a young man vilified for supposedly costing his team a pennant. Merkle earned his reputation on a fateful Sept. 23, 1908.
Source Click | Here
The Middle Class Must Not Be Forced to Bail Out Wall Street Greed
Sen. Bernie SandersPosted September 21, 2008 | 10:47 AM (EST)
source Click | Here
A lot of interesting comments too.
PT
I don’t think this is the bravest Congress, the first thing that comes to mind most often is “caves in”
I tried to find the Matt Taibbi Article but it isn’t online yet I sporadically buy Rollingstone. I don’t know Metallica is on the cover I am not sure I am interested in buy this issue. Metallica? I am sure 15 year old boys all over the country are excited
Is that Matt Taibbi’s readership?
Matt Taibbi’s Article “Mad Dog Palin” I sure hope Governor Palin, doesn’t have any children playing soccer. We might be able to guess the theme of the article
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/22/AR2008092202583_pf.html
From Chickaboomer: George Will unhappy with McCain
http://jackjacobs.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/21/1892600-do-something-
I’ve been thinking about this financial crisis a lot. I’ve considered every possibility and I can really come up with only one solution.
Click | Here
Is there a spy in the house of love?
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/23/video-on-clean-coal-biden-takes-bold-stand-against-um-obamas-position/
Hey Joe ~ Roosevelt wasn’t president when the market crashed and television wasn’t commercialized in 1929.
ChannelXRFR
I put up a blog about the Imus Ranch Golf Tournament on the I Man myspace page.
I read Matt Taibbi’s “Mad Dog Palin” I bought a hard copy, I feel a little guilty, somewhere out their a 13 year old boy is going without his copy now “Damn you Metallica”
Anyway it is mostly regurgitated progressive talking points. I think Matt might actually be a little sweet on ole Sarah. This isn’t anything I have not read before all over the internet and he doesn’t bother to report some facts, that have been cleared up about Palin. He keeps snidely listing them as the “Liberal Gospel” Oh Obama is better because of the Tolerance he Represents, yeah that gave me a chuckle too, if you disagree with Obama, you are called a racist, yeah that’s so tolerant.
It’s Okay Matt Taibbi you are not the only one confused about your feelings for Sarah Palin.
http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/09/clinton-i-get-why-palin-is-hot.html
Initial reporting on the Obama Ayers and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge….
It’s interesting Barack’s most significant executive experience came in a role of community organizer as Chairman of CAC.
The Coolest Country Compilation You’ll Hear All Year…
CMT on The Imus Ranch Record Click | Here
Great find PTB,
I have recorded them all and will send to my special group a Pando of the entire album.
Fear I cannot upload them to a site due to copyright infringement.
Thank You.
If this bailout is allowed to happen…the 2nd shoe of this 5 footed beast will drop.
My gratitude to those that are standing firm (Republicans and Democrats) against this ill conceived, yet well conceived plan as proposed in original form…
…the Founding Fathers of this great Nation must be certainly railing and protesting from their graves.
“It’s interesting Barack’s most significant executive experience came in a role of community organizer as Chairman of CAC.”
…as was John McCain’s “road to Damascus” experience after his culpability and his involvement in the Keating Five scandal…
McCain’s cooperation with the congressional hearings in the Keating Five matter is well documented and he was cleared of any wrongdoing.
Seems curious that BHO has not been more forthcoming regarding his tenure as the Chairman of CAC, probably for good reason. My understanding is BHO passed over applications for math and science programs in favor of on community organizing within the schools (providing grants to ACORN for example).
“he was cleared of any wrongdoing.”
Wrong answer.
He received a rebuke from the Senate Ethics committee.
My mistake. I apologize. McCain WAS “cleared” of any “wrong doing”… he was just chided for “poor judgment” by the Senate Ethics Committee.
Would BHO stand up to the same level of scrutiny as McCain or Palin? (DOUBTFUL)
Why is BHO hiding his connections to radical groups to CAC and ACORN. To what end?
What is BHO’s connection with ACORN?
Attorney Client.
What’s ACORN about?
Voter bribery, voter fraud, workers misrepresenting themselves with false driver’s license numbers, fake Social Security numbers.
That’s all!
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/23/fbi-investigating-fraud-at-fanniefreddielehmanaig/
Not Everyone is digging Matt Taibbi’s latest….
Source: NewsBusters
OK Gang,
I can’t even describe this except maybe just to say it’s Brilliant.
What Happens on Main Street Affects Wall St.
Buymyshitile.com Click | Here
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200507/fallows
That’s a very interesting article mtnherbal. I’ve only had time to read the first page right now …but I do intend to read the whole thing this evening. Thanks for the post.
PT,
Thank You, like Tony Powell public defender, It is all about who you want to dig out of their mess, or out from under their shit pile
Mike – Credit to Greenfield who mentioned on Imus this am.
Next will be the rest of the story!
This is why Huffington is full of it.
“What’s ACORN about?
Voter bribery, voter fraud, workers misrepresenting themselves with false driver’s license numbers, fake Social Security numbers.
That’s all!”
Frankly, I am puzzled by that assessment of ACORN.
In the words of the current Presided of the organization, Maude Hurd, here are the goals, aspirations and accomplishments of this organization:
“ACORN has been building organizations and developing leadership among low- and moderate-income residents in neighborhoods throughout the United States for 38 years. During that time, ACORN chapters have worked individually and collectively to organize innovative grassroots campaigns on a number of critical issues. As the nation’s largest grassroots community organization with more than 400,000 member families, ACORN employs 400 organizers that carry a huge responsibility of helping disenfranchised people in their communities.”
http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12439&no_cache=1&tx_ttnewstt_news=22326&tx_ttnewsbackPid=12340&cHash=942a418d60
In the past 10 years, ACORN has helped more than 30 million American families through our various organizing campaigns: better schools, financial justice, living wages, community improvement, immigration, healthcare, predatory lending, voter engagement and utilities.
The total monetary value of recent victorious ACORN campaigns was quantified in a 2006 report entitled, “ACORN Wins.” Over the last decade, ACORN’s victories amount to $15 billion, an average of $1.5 billion per year going directly into low- and moderate-income communities to help strengthen working families.
mtnherbal:
Your link to the article “Countdown to a Meltdown” published in The Atlantic was a great find…and spot on. Thanks for posting the link…otherwise, I would have missed it.
ACORN is a liberal organization that currently is getting people to register to Vote for the Messiah.
They are basically a bunch of Community Organizers.
I don’t believe I will be sending them any contributions in the next 200 years.
If ACORN is such an outstanding org why hasn’t BHO been more forthcoming regarding his association with the organization?
Come to think of it, why hasn’t BHO released his medical records and academic records?
McCain to ‘Suspend’ Campaign Amid Crisis, Return to D.C.
NEW YORK — Sen. John McCain said he will “suspend” his presidential campaign on Thursday and will return to Washington to focus on the unfolding economic crisis. In the meantime, he called for a delay in the presidential debate scheduled for Friday night in Mississippi.
Sen. McCain also called on his Democratic rival Barack Obama to join him back in the capital.
“It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the administration’s proposal. I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time,” the Arizona senator said in statement issued by the campaign. “Tomorrow morning, I will suspend my campaign and return to Washington.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122228304121472135.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Hey, this didn’t come from Huffpost…
“Perhaps an old antagonism is involved in McCain’s fact-free slander. His most conspicuous economic adviser is Douglas Holtz-Eakin, who previously headed the Congressional Budget Office. There he was an impediment to conservatives, including then-Rep. Cox, who, as chairman of the Republican Policy Committee, persistently tried and generally failed to enlist CBO support for “dynamic scoring” that would estimate the economic growth effects of proposed tax cuts.
In any case, McCain’s smear — that Cox “betrayed the public’s trust” — is a harbinger of a McCain presidency. For McCain, politics is always operatic, pitting people who agree with him against those who are “corrupt” or “betray the public’s trust,” two categories that seem to be exhaustive — there are no other people. McCain’s Manichaean worldview drove him to his signature legislative achievement, the McCain-Feingold law’s restrictions on campaigning. Today, his campaign is creatively finding interstices in laws intended to restrict campaign giving and spending. (For details, see The Post of Sept. 17; and the New York Times of Sept. 19.)
By a Gresham’s Law of political discourse, McCain’s Queen of Hearts intervention in the opaque financial crisis overshadowed a solid conservative complaint from the Republican Study Committee, chaired by Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas. In a letter to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, the RSC decried the improvised torrent of bailouts as a “dangerous and unmistakable precedent for the federal government both to be looked to and indeed relied upon to save private sector companies from the consequences of their poor economic decisions.” This letter, listing just $650 billion of the perhaps more than $1 trillion in new federal exposures to risk, was sent while McCain’s campaign, characteristically substituting vehemence for coherence, was airing an ad warning that Obama favors “massive government, billions in spending increases.”
excerpts from: “McCain Loses His Head” by
George F. Will
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/22/AR2008092202583.html
More recently the finanicial genius behind ACORN was found with his hand in the cookie jar. Worse executives of the organization choose to not disclose the embezzelment to the board or inform law enforcement!
Possibly I am just too jaded; but McCain’s bipartisanship wasn’t showing if he really “called on his Democratic rival Barack Obama to join him back in the capital.”
The rest of the article –
Shortly after Sen. McCain issued his statement, the Obama campaign issued its own, saying that the pair is working on a joint statement on the crisis, a process they said was initiated by Sen. Obama when he called Sen. McCain at 8:30 a.m. Wednesday, according to Obama spokesman Bill Burton.
“At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to pass such a proposal,” Mr. Burton said in an email to reporters. “At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obama’s call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details.”
I just heard that on Sean Hannity’s program. But Barack is spinning it as if it was his idea.
Very sad man Barack Obama.
That’s my opinion.
And Channel put to rest the ACORN debacle. Thank you.
Bruce you are not the administrator of this site and have no standing here
As far as McCain’s desire to “delaying” the debates…
…reminds me of “Monty Python And The Holy Grail”
“Brave Sir Robin* ran away,
Bravely ran away, away.
When danger reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Robin* turned about
And gallantly, he chickened out. Bravely taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin*.”
*Sir McCain
Now, more than ever…the American people need to know where both candidates stand in this crisis…here, and abroad.
Once again McCain has shown his innate leadership instincts and Obama has demonstrated his inexperience…
“Employment Policies Institute”….lol.
from Wiki…
The Employment Policies Institute (EPI) is one of several front groups created by Berman & Co., a Washington, DC public affairs firm owned by Rick Berman, who lobbies for the restaurant, hotel, alcoholic beverage and tobacco industries. While most commonly referred to as EPI, it is registered as a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization under the name of Employment Policies Institute Foundation. In its annual Internal Revenue Service return, EPI states that it “shares office space with Berman & Company on a cost pass through basis”. [1]
EPI has has been widely quoted in news stories regarding minimum wage issues, and although a few of those stories have correctly described it as a “think tank financed by business,” most stories fail to provide any identification that would enable readers to identify the vested interests behind its pronouncements. Instead, it is usually described exactly the way it describes itself, as a “non-profit research organization dedicated to studying public policy issues surrounding employment growth” that “focuses on issues that affect entry-level employment.” In reality, EPI’s mission is to keep the minimum wage low so Berman’s clients can continue to pay their workers as little as possible.
EPI also owns the internet domain names to MinimumWage.com and LivingWage.com, a website that attempts to portray the idea of a living wage for workers as some kind of insidious conspiracy. “Living wage activists want nothing less than a national livingwage,” it warns (as though there is something wrong with paying employees enough that they can afford to eat and pay rent).
In 2005 EPI provided, according to its IRS return, $307,995 by way of grants to the FirstJobs Institute, which it describes as an “economic literacy program”. [2]
Let me repeat a sentence from the above….
“In reality, EPI’s mission is to keep the minimum wage low so Berman’s clients can continue to pay their workers as little as possible.”
Typical. McCain asks for a POSTPONEMENT and to RESCHEDULE in order to go and do the job he was elected to do…something that is completely foreign to The Messiah who has spent the better part of his term in the Senate out of Washington campaigning, missing key votes and not coming up with even one single bill of his own!
The Messiah rejected John McCain’s proposal for 10 joint town hall meetings, scared to be in the same room with him. He wouldn’t have his telepromter so…can’t debate without it.
“Rotten ACORN America’s Bad Seed” provides a set of data points which counter the ACORN.ORG view of itself.
There is no question ACORN’s executive leadership covered up a $1M embezzlement for nearly a decade concealed from the board and legal authorities.
So let me get this straight… a LOBBYIST ( Rick Berman) that formed a tax exempt front, is being battled by the lowest and under middle class…
…sound about right to you?
Its about the facts in the study not the conclusion.
McCain’s statement regarding his suspension of his Campaign to go back to Washington, shows leadership.
Obama’s statement was all over the place, he had to search for his words. (No teleprompter).
Obama’s idea of debating himself is outright lunacy.
Obama doesn’t stand for My America. He stands for himself and insane programs which will cost the Country dearly. In the end if by chance he is elected all he has discussed during his campaign will never pass.
Sorry, but you did quote from:
“Rotten ACORN
America’s Bad Seed
By The Employment Policies Institute
ACORN is a bad seed.”
Just want people to know “who” is slimming who here…and why.
In a real world…being honest, please, can two parents working at current minim wage, stand any chance of improving themselves, their families and pulling themselves out of poverty?
The Employment Policies Institute article you quoted from is clearly known for their agenda.
I do not agree with their agenda…their policy, nor their Tax-Exempt status.
Hell these bastards don’t even want to pay taxes!
“Well there’s people and more people
What do they know know know
Go to work in some high rise
And vacation down at the Gulf of Mexico
Ooh yeah
And there’s winners and there’s losers
But they ain’t no big deal
‘Cause the simple man baby pays for the thrills, the bills,
the pills that kill
Ah but ain’t that America for you and me
Ain’t that America somethin’ to see baby
Ain’t that America home of the free, yeah
Little pink houses for you and me, Ooooh”
from “Pink Houses”
John Mellencamp
If anyone is having trouble getting ahead…
Examples of How Poor People Can Get Ahead Financially
http://www.freemoneyfinance.com/2008/03/examples-of-how.html
Donald, These Acorn guys are crooks. The CFO embezzles $1M in funds and executive management right up the line conceals the crime. That’s not slime that’s a fact.
3v2u – yeah, but I’ve worked my ass off all my life and now I’m watching my retirement days and funds grow shorter because I’m funding someone else’s. Not a happy camper here in the mtns!
Both McCain and Obama have been elected to the Senate so why is it so shocking that McCain would want to return to Washington to weigh in on what seems to be the financial crisis of the century, the crisis he tried to avert in 2006.
If Obama wants to do more than one thing at a time, maybe he should be in the Senate trying to figure this out and campaign at the same time.
mtnherbal
tell it to the democrats that put us in this mess
McCain military background, he goes tactical in a crisis.
#1 tenet in crisis management ~ Leadership is everything. . #2 tenet ~ all hands on deck, #3 tenet ~ clear calendars, #4 tenet ~ get a plan, #5 tenet execute, execute, execute.
I’m sure JMAC can get to Missouri on Friday which will just make Obama look like a bigger fool then he already is.
McCain is a Leader and Obama is a Backbencher.
I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a ‘We Deserve It Dividend’.
To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child.
So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a ‘We Deserve It Dividend’.
Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
A husband and wife have $595,000.00.
What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads
Put away money for college – it’ll be there
Save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car – create jobs
Invest in the market – capital drives growth
Pay for your parent’s medical insurance – health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean – or else
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their
jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back, and of course,
for those serving in our Armed Forces.
If we’re going to re-distribute wealth let’s really do it…instead of trickling out a
puny $1000.00 ( “vote buy” ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one
of our candidates for President.
If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
As for AIG – liquidate it.
Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General. Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.
Can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!
How do you spell Economic Boom?
I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion ‘We Deserve It Dividend’
more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC.
And remember, The Family plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is
returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam. Talk about a stimulus package!
Ahhh…I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
Kindest personal regards,
Barack Obama, and I have approved this message.
3v2u – I have studiously avoided political discussions on this and other sites because imo the incivility that often ensues is not something I need in my life. However, I was responding to your link of “Examples of How Poor People Can Get Ahead Financially” and pointing out that altho’ I had worked hard, I was seeing the results of my endeavors end up in someone else’s pocket. The example of the dude from Appalachia from your link could have come from my playbook. I was there in the 70’s when we had our last bout with the economy and saw more than one fortune lost by hardworking people whose biggest failure was not seeing it coming.
This problem is economic. It will be a good while before we know all the ins and outs, causes and effects. It might be a good time to put hateful partisan politics aside and see if we can get this country back on the right track.
My econ prof in the 60’s was adamant that our future challenges lay not with “the red threat of the Soviet Union,” but with the Chinese. The international community has manipulated our politics often and I sincerely believe that they are doing so now.
I have chosen my candidate and will cast my vote thusly. However, I have every hope that whoever is elected will truly do what they have both promised and cross the aisle to reclaim our American Heritage.
“McCain military background, he goes tactical in a crisis.
#1 tenet in crisis management ~ Leadership is everything. . #2 tenet ~ all hands on deck, #3 tenet ~ clear calendars, #4 tenet ~ get a plan, #5 tenet execute, execute, execute.”
David Letterman Reacts to John McCain Suspending Campaign:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkCrfylq-E
McCain cancels Letterman due to economic crisis…and then…
… Dave’s audience watches John McCain going live on Katie Couric.
Priceless…
Candidate faced with a national crisis cancels an appearance on a comedy program. Sound familiar?
McCain understands how to take action in the face of crisis. Obama clinging to his teleprompter sticks to the script.
Opinion
Richard Reeves
Here’s a case for a 12% to 13% return on the distressed securities.
Alright, I understand Bill Gross wanting to provide advice on these securities. As noble as the offer is seems like a conflict of interest. After all who’s to say the annual return to the government shouldn’t be around 18%?
mtnherbal
Though I can understand your points, I think this crisis goes way beyond economics. It is clear now that the Democrats mindset has sent us down the road of destruction . We have to understand the how’s and why this happend in order for us not to go down this road again.
The Real Culprits In This Meltdown
By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY
Big Government: Barack Obama and Democrats blame the historic financial turmoil on the market. But if it’s dysfunctional, Democrats during the Clinton years are a prime reason for it.
Read More: Business & Regulation
Obama in a statement yesterday blamed the shocking new round of subprime-related bankruptcies on the free-market system, and specifically the “trickle-down” economics of the Bush administration, which he tried to gig opponent John McCain for wanting to extend.
But it was the Clinton administration, obsessed with multiculturalism, that dictated where mortgage lenders could lend, and originally helped create the market for the high-risk subprime loans now infecting like a retrovirus the balance sheets of many of Wall Street’s most revered institutions.
http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=306370789279709
I was fence sitting until Sarah Palin entered the race, and then I was still undecided until they started attacking her. That was one of the STUPIDEST POLITICAL MOVES OF ALL TIME. If Joseph Biden was the top of the ticket, I would vote Biden, he isn’t. I won’t Vote for a Far Left Progressive Candidate, that won’t move to the Center of the American Electorate, and pulls Joseph Biden back when he attempts to appeal to the very voters Obama needs. The reason Biden was chosen in the first place so if he is just for window dressing, I am not interested. At this point I will Vote McCain/Palin. I suspect the next Congress will be Democrat, Senate and House so a divided Government, they can do less damage that way. I see a lot of Biden bashing but he is a decent man, doing exactly what he signed up for-get Obama elected, I wish he was on the top of the ticket.
Sarah Palin is not running for President of the U.S., Obama is, she has more experience then he does running any Government – Mayor and Governor. Obama has been in the Illinois State Senate and the U.S Senate, where he voted Present most of the time. Obama doesn’t want to appeal to the Moderate Voter?
Why isn’t the Media covering the Conservative Black Constituents?
Time for Some Rattler Gator, Black Conservatives support “Country First” J.B. White, is a wonderful writer. I highly recommend his blog. Obviously he is also a Gators Fan:)
http://rattlergator.typepad.com/rattlergator/2008/09/operation-country-first-the-campaign-theme.html
J.B. White, did write an article about Imus when he was fired titled “Sticks and Stones”
Did someone hack into and hijack donimus.org? All of the Imus articles have been removed. It appears to be a BarackObama.com affiliate site!
Channel,
http://www.donimus.org is against the candidate that Imus is voting for.
Reading that site sounds like an Obama site. Disgusting.
Donimus.org is a fan site so it is only representing the owners political views, not Imus’s necessarily. I don’t agree but everyone has a right to their own opinions. Donimus.org is an Imus Supporter always has been, that is good enough for me. I don’t have to agree with the webmaster’s politics, now I hope that decision is mutual. Who we support in this election is really up to each person, the day after the election, we all are still going to be Americans. I don’t agree with Obama’s positions on a lot of issues, he is too far away from my politics, (you can’t get here from there) but I am not going to stick my finger in the eye of anyone, who does agree with him, even if I don’t, that is the whole point of Democracy. I can respect people’s political opinions, even if I don’t agree with them. No aside here, people are not being united through this Presidential Election Cycle, they are getting more divided at a time when we should all be pulling for the home team “America” As usual, I blame MSNBC’s Rating Hos, for the vitriol on the blogs LMAO!
Ree, Agree everyone has a right to their own opinion. Hoping the Imus articles return to donimus.org soon.
3v2u – I definitely agree that we need to discover how our economy got in such a mess and take steps to remedy the problems. However, from an economic perspective, it’s my opinion there are many contributing factors including but not limited to lending practices, greed, theft, speculation, social engineering, Perot’s “giant sucking sound”, energy and energy related issues, international politics and the war. That list encompasses a lot and people of every party imaginable.
While the democratic idea of affordable housing may have had some effect on this problem, imo it just can’t be the whole banana. Playing with all those 0’s in billions of dollars is blinding. However, if I figured correctly, even if we bought 1/4 of the population of the US a $200,000 house each it would have cost only $150 billion. Where did the other $550 billion go? There were lots of folks speculating during the housing boom including landlords and developers.
My point is that yeah, money was lent inappropriately. But it wasn’t just “po people reaching for the stars.” There had to been a lot of speculation involved. I just hope that we can figure enough of it out to avoid a recurrence.
The Rattler Gator site is great, Ree. I wonder if it’s because I agree with him?
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ChannelXRFR
Me too, I guess this political season has a taken on a life of it’s own. I am half serious about the cable news entities, they love to gin people up for ratings. I think that is one of the reasons everyone is taking it so personal. I know I am not the people, I am supporting so I don’t need to make personal remarks about folks, who disagree. The blogs Like The Daily Kos, appear to be feeding the cable news channels at least in the case of MSNBC, and in return they are channeling a lot of nasty personal attacks bleeding through on air. I think people are not thinking it through, no one has to join in just because these folks set a low water mark. The real reason they are doing it is for “ratings” and I guess, some kind of status on the Internet. I am not joining in that, people need to step back, and see how this plays into someone else’s agenda not necessarily their own.
Here is an example, my eldest sister sent me the rumors about Sarah Palin, being circulated in emails. I laugh, oh really I write back, and did you know that Obama is really a Muslim, did you get that email circulation LOL! It is great to be engaged, especially right now in this point in our history but people are missing the forest for the trees. A Unified America benefits us a Divided America benefits Politicians who keep ginning up their bases. They better be careful they might just get what they wish for, after this election either way it turns out, there are going to be some hard feelings left over, there is no way around it. Not the America, I would want to be governing if I was either ticket. They are focused so much on winning, they are not paying attention to the fall out from their proxy’s less then honorable support. A house divided will not stand….who said that?
#195 mtnherbal,
Aw heck, “My Mama Done Told Me” – Never discuss sex, politics or religion. If you agree, what’s the point and if you disagree, you aren’t going to convince anyone.
I just thought that bared repeating
Bella
I first started reading J.B. White when he wrote that “sticks and stones article about the Imus firing” He writes so well, and I can understand where he is coming from, is it a Southern thing? I think in the end, that is what stands out for me in blogs, really good writing. I don’t read Daily Kos, because I don’t want to read about someone trying to determine if a down syndrome baby, was the result of a teenager’s mono. That isn’t good writing it is just a bunch of rumor mongering. That is why they will only attract one little portion of readers, and no more. It turns others completely off. I read and say no thank you, that isn’t where I am coming from at all. Huffington Post, actually has more moderate bloggers, then the other blogs, they are grouped with, now some of the people commenting that is another story. I don’t want to be fed just one view point but I am not interested in the smarmy blogs at all.
I totally agree with you venividivici2u
mtnherbal – You may want to read this:
How Affirmative Action Loans Destroyed our Economy
Sept. 19th, 2008, 8:50pm
Here is an article that “pulls no punches” and lays out the path that has led the USA to economic ruin starting with the mortgage fiasco. The blame is a partisan event with the democrats being in the majority of the guilty but republicans had their hands in it also. The article shows the organizations set in place by the Leftists to enforce Affirmative Action type loans to people that could not afford them
There are some comments at the end of the article that you can read or disregard.
Note – When you read the first part of this you have to scroll down quite away to get to the rest of the article.
http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/the_diversity_recession/
McCain – what a joke – he can run {Hey wait – he doesn’t have to RUN – he can drive one of his 7 cars} but he can’t hide from the polls & the people. The guy is – just a fraud.
stdomsgirl McCain is the real deal. A war hero, a maverick. Who is BO, read below for just ONE example
Who paid for Obama’s Harvard degree?
Dr. Kahlid al-Monsoor principal advisor to one of the worlds richest men……which happens to be a Saudi.
http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/obama_sutton_saudi/2008/09/03/127490.html?s=al&...
How exactly did Barack Obama pay for his Harvard Law School education?
The way the Obama campaign has answered the question was simply hard work and student loans.
But new questions have been raised about Obama’s student loans and Obama’s ties to a radical Muslim activist who reportedly was raising money for Obama’s Harvard studies during the years 1988 to 1991.
The allegations first surfaced in late March, when former Manhattan Borough president Percy Sutton told a New York cable channel that a former business partner who was “raising money” for Obama had approached him in 1988 to help Obama get into Harvard Law School.
In the interview, Sutton says he first heard of Obama about twenty years ago from Khalid Al-Mansour, a Black Muslim and Black Nationalist who was a “mentor” to the founders of the Black Panther party at the time the party was founded in the early 1960s.
Sutton described al-Mansour as advisor to “one of the world’s richest men,” Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal.
Prince Alwaleed catapulted to fame in the United States after the September 11 attacks, when New York mayor Rudy Guiliani refused his $10 million check to help rebuild Manhattan, because the Saudi prince hinted publicly that America’s pro-Israel policies were to blame for the attacks.
Sutton knew Al-Mansour well, since the two men had been business partners and served on several corporate boards together.
As Sutton remembered, Al-Mansour was raising money for Obama’s education and seeking recommendations for him to attend Harvard Law School.
“I was introduced to (Obama) by a friend who was raising money for him,” Sutton told NY1 city hall reporter Dominic Carter. “The friend’s name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas.”
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_harvard_/2008/09/23/133199.html
goiman,
Oh I hope this means Imus is booking the newsmax guy
John Bootlierlicker what is that guys name?
“McCain understands how to take action in the face of crisis.”
Here is what John McCain understands perfectly:
Cancel on the Letterman show, which airs much later in the evening…to go on with CBS Evening News in prime time to promote his fanciful delusion of days of yore…sung to the theme of “Mighty Mouse” :
“Here I come to save the day!”…
…not.
Whoops, here he goes again:
Obama’s Garden to Nowhere
A $100,000 state grant for a botanic garden in Englewood that then-state Sen. Barack Obama awarded in 2001 to a group headed by a onetime campaign volunteer is now under investigation by the Illinois attorney general amid new questions, prompted by Chicago Sun-Times reports, about whether the money might have been misspent.
The garden was never built. And now state records obtained by the Sun-Times show $65,000 of the grant money went to the wife of Kenny B. Smith, the Obama 2000 congressional campaign volunteer who heads the Chicago Better Housing Association, which was in charge of the project for the blighted South Side neighborhood.
Smith wrote another $20,000 in grant-related checks to K.D. Contractors, a construction company that his wife, Karen D. Smith, created five months after work on the garden was supposed to have begun, records show. K.D. is no longer in business.
Attorney General Lisa Madigan — a Democrat who is supporting Obama’s presidential bid — is investigating “whether this charitable organization properly used its charitable assets, including the state funds it received,” Cara Smith, Madigan’s deputy chief of staff, said Wednesday.
In addition to the 2001 grant that Obama directed to the housing association as a “member initiative,” the not-for-profit group got a separate $20,000 state grant in 2006.
This is not the community organizing Obama knows.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/25/obamas-garden-to-nowhere/
McCain Campaign out flanked the Obama Campaign I made the same observation this morning in a comment on Imus Truth. This could have stayed neutral if Obama joined McCain and suspended the politics till after the Bill is passed or not passed.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/25/zogby-mccain-by-two-thanks-to-his-decision-to-suspend-the-campaign/
Letterman has a huge ego, he thinks a late night comedy show -talk show, is more important then what? The Country’s financial dire crisis (Democrat’s description)? Nobody is paying attention to how this plays in the heartland. People vote in fly over country, and they are Country First kind of people. Not “call me if me if you need me”
Wait – David Letterman is still on TV?? Geesh and Obama flaking on SNL was what – a sign of reliability? Get real. “
Isn’t Senator Dodd, going to be on Imus in the Morning tomorrow?
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/25/breaking-basic-deal-on-bailout-reached/
Is it possible, it will it be Sarah Palin who finally bags Osama Bin Laden? Looks like she has made a conquest in Pakistan. Tell him anything he wants to hear Sarah, get the coordinates to Cave Central LOL!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09252008/news/politics/palin_wows_pak_prez_130633.htm
You MUST be referring (of course) to John LeBoutillier,
Newsmax Pundit.
…who wrote this beauty…
“Media Ignore John McCain’s Offenses”
Monday, November 19, 2007 7:59 AM
By: John LeBoutillier
The so-called mainstream media (MSM) has missed the boat on John McCain for 23 years.
While the Chris Mathews-Tim Russert-Imus crowd has slobbered all over McCain — mainly out of guilt over their own Vietnam War behavior — many others have known the real truth: the Arizona senator is a two-faced, sarcastic, mean-spirited, condescending hypocrite who has gotten away with numerous instances of terrible behavior because the MSM won’t take an objective look at him.
Now, however, the U.S. Veteran Dispatch, a highly respected and widely read veterans newspaper from Kinston, N.C., has published a riveting new article, “Betrayal, Deceit, Corruption, and John McCain,” written by former U.S. Army Green Beret and two-tour Vietnam veteran Ted Sampley.
Among the revelations in this fascinating article: When McCain returned to the United States in 1973 after more than five years as a prisoner of war, he found his wife was a different person. Carol McCain, once a model, had been badly injured in a car wreck in 1969. The accident “left her 4 inches shorter and on crutches, and she gained a good deal of weight.”
Despite her injures, she had refused to allow her POW husband to be notified about her condition, fearing that such news would not be good for him while he was being held prisoner.
But, just a couple years later, McCain, while pondering a future in politics, met Cindy Hensley, an attractive 25-year-old woman from a very wealthy politically-connected Arizona family. While still married to Carol, McCain began an adulterous relationship with Cindy. He married Cindy in May 1980 just a month after dumping his crippled wife and securing a divorce.
McCain followed his young, millionairess wife back to Arizona.
Reports from a variety of U.S. publications exposed McCain’s true scandalous character:
# The Arizona Republic, Oct. 17, 1989, reported “. . . both in telephone conversations with reporters and on a live radio talk show, the Republican senator was far from calm. He was agitated. Angry. And the way he dealt with unpleasant questions was to bully the questioners . . . ‘You’re a liar,’ McCain snapped Sept. 29 when an Arizona Republic reporter asked him about business ties between his wife, Cindy McCain, and Keating . . . ‘That’s the spouse’s involvement, you idiot,’ McCain sneered later in the same conversation. ‘You do understand English, don’t you?’
“. . . Not content with just bullying reporters, McCain tried belittling them: ‘It’s up to you to find that out, kids.’ . . . McCain wasn’t talking to liars. He wasn’t talking to juveniles. The senator was talking to two reporters.
“McCain, in a radio talk-show appearance last week condemned disclosures of his family’s ties to Keating as ‘irresponsible journalism.’”
# In an article in the Phoenix Gazette, on Nov. 13, 1989, “Reporters also ‘discovered’ that the senator’s wife and father-in-law invested $359,100.00 in one of Mr. Keating’s projects in 1986 . . .”
In was reported in another article from the Arizona Republic, dated Aug. 24, 1994, that Cindy McCain escaped prosecution for stealing/using drugs. “Cindy McCain, the wife of U.S. Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona, admitted in a series of media interviews Monday that she became addicted to the painkillers Percocet and Vicodin.
“She said that she used the drugs from 1989 to 1992 and acknowledged that she had stolen some pills from the American Voluntary Medical Team, a charitable organization of which she is president . . . at one point, McCain, 40, was ingesting 15 to 20 pills a day . . . the normal dosage for seriously ill patients is 6 to 10 a day for a short period.”
Another article by the same publication, dated Jan. 17, 1995, detailed greetings sent by John McCain to a noted crime family member: “About 300 guests turned out Saturday night to celebrate the 90th birthday of Joseph ‘Joe Bananas’ Bonanno, retired boss of New York’s Bonanno crime family. He retired to Tucson in 1968 . . . John McCain, R-Ariz., and Gov. Fife Symington sent their regards by telegram.”
All of the above is but the tip of the iceberg on the real John McCain.
While trailing badly now for the GOP presidential nomination, mainly because he has ticked off so many mainstream conservatives over the years, he is a viable vice presidential choice. Thus it is vital that the real John McCain be exposed —all GOP voters need to know the truth.
Vist the U.S. Veteran Dispatch Web site (http://www.usvetdsp.com/nov07/mccain_deceit.htm) and read Ted Sampley’s article. And then forward it to everyone you know.
John McCain must be stopped. And Ted Sampley’s well-researched article might just do it.
© 2007 Newsmax. All rights reserved.
…a crackerjack reporter…and a crackerjack “news” organization…Newsmax.
http://www.newsmax.com/john_leboutillier/john_mccain/2007/11/19/50610.html
LOL…great line there…
“While the Chris Mathews-Tim Russert-Imus crowd has slobbered all over McCain — mainly out of guilt over their own Vietnam War behavior —”
Is that “Getting Real” enough for ya, Goiman?
“the Arizona senator is a two-faced, sarcastic, mean-spirited, condescending hypocrite who has gotten away with numerous instances of terrible behavior because the MSM won’t take an objective look at him.”
hmmm….is Newsmax really a credible source for news…or did the I-Man let this one slip right by him….
Washington phone me if you need me ~ Barack Obama.
OBAMA is clueless as to the seriousness of the credit crunch.
I find it beyond annoying that “posters” like to fill up space with “cut and paste” from whatever.
If you want to get us to try and read something just post the damn link and we”ll decide.
“Cut and Paste” as if you wrote it is just stupid.
Thanks.
Recently on Imus, LeBoutillier referred to Obama as “tissue paper” …
….and Imus actually gives this buffoon air time.
Another case of ““call me if me if you need me””?
Say what you will Chanx…
John LeBoutillier wrote the above article…Newsmax printed it, and he insulted Imus and the I-Nation.
Choose your poison.
LeBoutillier has an interesting style, doesn’t seem to be playing an agenda. He lays it out there; the good, the bad, the ugly.
OK Skiwolf.
Although, “as if you wrote it” might me over the line. It is fully credited to the author and the magazine.
I, in no way am taking credit for what John LeBoutillier wrote.
He wrote it…the credit due goes entirely to him, and Newsmax.
I like the real John McCain warts, surgeries and all. He doesn’t take any crap and why would he after what he’s been through.
donaldinks
Must have hit a nerve! At least this time you acknowledged where the article or “thought” came from
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There’s no need to wait until Democrats take over the White House to see how socialized medicine will pan out. Just look north of the border:
September 24, 2008
Corpse Sits for Hours in Canadian Waiting Room
Health officials are still investigating how a man found dead at the Health Sciences Centre ER waiting area escaped the attention of medical staff for 34 hours.
“Staff weren’t aware he was waiting for care,” said Dr. Brock Wright, chief operating officer for the Winnipeg Regional Health Authority, at a news conference this morning. “They didn’t know he was in the queue waiting to be seen.”
Wright said the man had been dead “for a number of hours” before he was brought to the attention of medical staff early Sunday morning.
For the sake of efficiency, maybe bureaucrats could pass a new regulation requiring the really sick patients to wait in the morgue.
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/09/corpse_sits_for.html
While we are talking about newsmax…
McCain knows what it takes to lead and the people know it!
“OBAMA is clueless as to the seriousness of the credit crunch.”
I believe, Chanx, you responded to me earlier on this matter (in this thread) with the following statement:
“Donald, I look at this a little differently. What’s happening now isn’t a melt down, it is a correction. ”
It doesn’t take 700 Billion dollars (or more) of the American peoples tax money to “patch up” a stock market correction.
I believed, back then, as I do now it is more than just “a correction. ”
So do many people in the Senate, the Congress…and the America. Oh, I almost forgot… the President chimed in last night,, and it didn’t sound like it “isn’t a melt down, it is a correction. ” to me….
I’m pretty sure Obama knows the seriousness of this time in history is, and the implications. I sure do.
McCain is the real deal. You can dislike him if you choose, but he is the real deal. He’s making a lot of smart moves and it is my firm belief that he does have the good of the country at heart. And for that matter, so does Sarah Palin. As does Joe Biden, actually.
And as Ree said, if Barack Obama had just agreed to come on back to Washington so he and McCain could do what they were elected to do during the greatest crisis we have faced in a while, it would have been a great bipartisan effort. I was thinking to myself that they should be in Washington. If a man can’t put the country first in a time of crisis, when will he?
It is childish to say, call me if you need me. And now Barney Frank is jumping up and down (figuratively) like a little boy, when he was the chairman of the oversight committee in the House that was responsible for Fannie and Freddie. But there is blame all around because there are plenty of democrats and republicans on these committees.
I hope this is not as serious as they are saying because I am opposed to the bailout. But we’ll see.
Sorry, Donald but my post was not directed just at you. Although your one post did drive me to express an opinion.
It is annoying to read endless posts from people that copy and paste words from others to make a point.
Just put the link up. If we want to read it we will.
Thanks. Just my thought.
Obama is Clueless
Bingo!
I know that Obama is only for one thing, Himself.
He will go to no end to disrespect McCain, Palin and always bring his race into the argument.
He “Obama” also is disrespecting the American People in a very sly way.
Will never have respect for this man, nor his gaffe machine Biden as VP.
When Biden thinks FDR handled the Stock Market Crash of 1929 and went on TV, who is the one out of touch? Not McCain. This is all a setup for Biden to be replaced as his VP pick and ask Hillary. But Hillary will not buy into this empty suit.
Bill Clinton is really throwing Obama under the bus everytime he speaks. But he doesn’t do it directly, but with innuendo.
Hillary will not accept the VP slot if asked in my opinion. She is much too smart to play second fiddle to a Teleprompter reading talking head.
And this is my opinion. Also SkiWolf, if you do not like my cut and paste articles from the news. Don’t read them. It’s that simple.
skiwolf,
Your point is well taken, and I apologize for the rambling article.
That’s what “links” are for….
…and just to make my apology concrete….I’m giving myself a “time out” until the election…er, “erection” is over.
(LOL…I hear the cheers already as I am typing this.)
Pray for the Nation. Whoever is elected will have more than his plate full…there are so many challenges ahead for our Country and its people, and our next President will need our entire support.
Whoever wins, I commit my support towards the greater good of our Country, as I always have…and pray for cooler heads to prevail, less partisanship…and a true and honorable course for our good people…and our Nation.
It’s been a honor to have been a part of this fine group!
Be well, all of you.
McCain/Palin = eeeeew! President Punk & Vice President Pit Bull with lipstick….eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew! Re: McCains war injuries – it didn’t stop him from clutching Bush with both arms {like a girl} at a rally – as W held him with his left arm – as W raised his right arm to the crowd. I felt like saying eeeeew! Get a room you 2. Punk would be Bush’s 3rd time/3rd term Please God…….don’t let it be. What a nightmare for this country. W has ravished Lady Liberty since he stole the 2000 election. The 1st thing {2000} he did was raid our/my Treasury & gave away our money to his oil buddies and other friends. Now, just before he leaves {the end of an error/era} he wants to bail out more of his friends on Wall St. Bush is a smirking bully who still says NUCULA. For heavens’s sake his wife is a teacher & his mother wants kids to learn how to read – could they start by helping Georgie. BTW – I hear Palin mispronouncing Nuclear in the same way. Yup, she’s a Bona Fide Bushie. Sheesh! God Bless America – even though the Bushies want to destroy what we Americans stand for.
I respect you too much StDomsGirl to rebuke your statement. We still live in a free Country last time I checked. Your opinion as well as Donald’s are important.
And I’m not cheering that Donald is on a self imposed time out until after the election.
His opinions are equally important as yours.
Enjoy your evening.
Bruce – Thanks for resisting.
Thank you for your comment, Donald. Please know that my comment was not directed to you personally.
Of course, now I see the Bruce person has felt it necessary to interject its self.
DonaldInks, ChannelXRFR,
I thought that was the point in having the newsmax guy on, ah Le booty lear
so Imus could kick him in the shins figuratively speaking. Ask PT, some of the best Imus moments lately is when ole John was on.
Bella and I, have been critiquing, what would work on us if the Obama Camp followed our advice. Apparently they are going in another direction
We are watching all the missed opportunities. We know what works on us but apparently the Obama Camp, is not interested maybe they can’t “task switch” Obama is in Politcal Campaigning Mode so he can’t stop and go back to United States Senator Mode. We need them all in Washington, I have been listening to the coverage of what has been going on, some high drama at the Capital, GOOD “lock em in” and don’t let them out till they come up with something, that doesn’t skrew over the American People. Let them earn their paychecks.
Come on SkiWolf, We don’t need a food fight. It’s better to post a part of a link for an idea what is said, then just a blind link.
But with due respect, I am not the Bruce Person who interjected it self.
Thought we were over that silliness. One liners do not work for me. As in “Bingo”
This is an update on that Link PT posted BuyMyPileofShit, this is the latest to be uploaded for the Govt., to bail people out of their pile of shit, you know since they are in the bailing people out of shit mood, there is some funny stuff in here.
http://www.buymyshitpile.com/recent_shitpiles
News Flash For Bruce:
I have no interest in anything you have to say.
To be clear, Bruce is not the moderator of this site and has no standing here.
Thanks Channel,
Thought we were over this foolishness.
Go ask Keith
Bruce,
You are not the moderator of this site, that’s a fact.
Go ask Keith yourself…
And when did I act like I was? Remember Channel you taught me how to use bold and quotes in HTML for posting. Guess your forgot the favors you use to ask from me which I always obliged.
Yourself and Donald are having a disagreement over this Presidential stuff. Never once did I tell someone what they could or could not do. I do not appreciate you treating me like a third class member of this site.
Don’t know what kind of problem you have, but I do hope you get over it soon. It’s a wonder anyone posts on this site.
And frankly I don’t care what you say on group. Rally your 8 posting members. Being a moderator of a site doesn’t make you King of the Castle. You are only doing the dirty work that Keith gave you after he took himself out of this arena for awhile.
Good Grief. With a person that I thought was a friend, who needs enemies.
skiwolf
Of course, now I see the Bruce person has felt it necessary to interject its self. on September 25, 2008 at 5:58 pm366
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on September 25, 2008 at 6:42 pm370 skiwolf
News Flash For Bruce:
I have no interest in anything you have to say.
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Then you shouldn’t have made that offensive comment skiwolf! He has every right to defend himself. Since you were chiding the rest of us for posting a link, god forbid, Bruce can say whatever he likes concerning this since he and a host of others are “guilty”. btw why not just ignore the posts all together if it annoys you so much? jmo
First of all goiman, I was “chiding” no one for posting a “link”. I was “chiding” about posting entire articles instead of, in fact, just posting a link. I was not, in fact, attacking any particular individual. I find it amusing that you are defending the original attack artist. Makes me wonder……
Don’t wonder too much skiwolf, you may just hurt yourself. You attacked Bruce with a gratuitous remark and then expect him not to respond. Ridiculous. As for posting a link, or the entire article, why not just pass it by? There are time I appreciate the article being present (if it isn’t too long) where I can quickly scan it rather than click on the link and go back and forth.
In your ever so humble opinion, goiman. Dare I risk not seeing your point-of-view. Again, I find it amusing someone defending poor old Bruce.
My views about posting entire articles are mine. That you don’t agree with those views is certainly your right. It’s also your right I guess to make a mountain out of mole hill.
Ut oh. I sense goiman is the type to correct spelling. Hence I will correct myself first. Word is molehill.
Bruce,
You certainly have a deluded sense of self.
Advice: save the inane insults and snide juvenile remarks for someone who cares.
Note: You’re not going to be pushing around, bullying or otherwise accosting anyone on this site without a response from me, period.
ChanX
“I’m tired its been seven straight days and four hours sleep”
Gawd, Can’t believe Senator Dodd is a leader in all this. Totally out of control. Complaining about how hard he’s working, lack of sleep, pointing fingers at every Republican he can throw under the bus. How is any of this helpful?
Hey Senator how about you write a bill without handing out $$$ to ACORN?
From the Democrats “Agreement in Principle”
I agree with Imus’ closing remark “Senator try and get some rest, will you.”
You may find it amusing skiwolf only because you are a vindictive self-righteous poster who has lost any sense of decency.
If the shoe fits goiman, if the shoe fits.
point proven, thanks skiwolf
The Affordable Housing Fund and the Capital Magnet Fund simply continue the homeownership policies which led to the subprime debacle!
I love posters who declare victory in type as if they’ve won something. Kind of funny these types. You’re almost as delusional as, oh well never mind. Thanks for the little chat, goiman.
I don’t feel like I won anything! That’s not the point. Bruce did not deserve to be called out! PERIOD
Thanks again for the little chat. PERIOD.
What cracks me up is Dodd and Frank show up at the White House thinking they have a deal! How could these guys be the leaders and yet so clueless?
Sounds like McCain was the only person walking into the room who knew there was no deal. No wonder Dodd and Frank don’t want McCain around. J-MAC makes them look like a couple of pikers.
I was kind of bummed X that Imus let Dodd play the blame game with no challenge. He really let Dodd off easy.
There was so much for Imus to pick on there. Almost impossible for Imus to know where to start in real time.
Dodd complaining that he can’t get the House Republicans to sit down with him, priceless. He should have saved that little rant for the back room with his cronies.
Different perspective…
Even though he’s been on his best behavior for a couple of weeks it’s difficult to see Bruce as a victim or to view him as a sympathetic figure.
It’s possible that Barney Franks little fit, is a sign on the wall, and that the Democrats know that John McCain is in town, and it isn’t going down the way they wanted. Let the air out of their party balloons and they know it. Nancy Pelosi was gushing about Barney Franks “performance” these creeps really have no bottom.
That is why they are attacking McCain and taking shots at his campaign it must be in trouble they will do anything to divert attention away from the BC they are trying to shove through really quickly through the Congress. I am listening to Newt Gringrich. He stated John McCain will start putting together a new Republican coalition Senate and House Republicans, and there will be a Work Out NOT a Bail Out. Of course the Democrats are acting out John McCain just caught them doing dirty and exposed them. Take a look at how much they were trying to funnel to ACORN.
Newt Gringrich: this is how it will go down, McCain will form a new coalition, there will be a new proposal, that the Republicans know their constituents can live with a little negotiation, then John McCain delivers the Republicans. That is why the Democrats are having a fit they were getting it all their way. Senator Harry Reid was complaining that it was going to take John McCain, back in Washington to get anything passed. Then when John McCain called his bluff, you get to hear all this nonsense about how it was all political on John McCain’s part. What weasels if Obama loses, he has Senator Harry Reid to thank for his Loss.
Who is trying to put lipstick on a pig now?
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/25/kill-the-bailout-more-acorn-funding/
channelXRFR
Different perspective…
Even though he’s been on his best behavior for a couple of weeks it’s difficult to see Bruce as a victim or to view him as a sympathetic figure.
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Channel,
I neither view him as a victim or a sympathetic figure just another human being who deserves to be treated fairly. What did he say that was so wrong as to be called “that Bruce person” as if he were a non-entity.
goiman, i am always in favor of treating people civilly. Personal rule “You can disagree without being disagreeable”.
Keep in mind there is some history here between Ski and Bruce. Couple of months ago Ski (among others) stopped commenting here as a result of Bruce attacks.
That being said, it is certainly reasonable for you to ask for and expect civility.
This Monica Crowley blogging about what Charles was speaking about this morning. On Bended knee maybe Paulson needs retired?
http://monicamemo.typepad.com/weblog/2008/09/brother-can-you.html
well put channel, thanks:)
Ree, from the link at comment #394
The $700M bailout sends $100M to ACORN and people are worried about executive compensation!
Reid and Dodd blame McCain; Schumer tells McCain to “Get out of town;” McCain leaves for debate
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/26/reid-and-dodd-blame-mccain/
goiman
The way I see it McCain derailed something really sleazy. I am glad he put a lamp light on what they were doing, even if it took him suspending his campaign- Inject away, if it brings attention to something REALLY REALLY WRONG. McCain Injecting Politics, what a JOKE that is. All they have doing is injecting Politics. (Senator Harry Reid insisted nothing will Pass unless John McCain comes back to Washington, and gets involved) then he gets his cheap political bluff called, and he is blaming McCain. Harry Reid, Barney Frank, Dodd, Pelosi, all need a check up, from the neck up. How stupid are we supposed to be, to buy this crap, they are trying to sell us?
================ BREAKING NEWS ==============================
TBO.com Breaking News Alert: Republican presidential candidate John McCain will attend tonight’s debate in Oxford, Mississippi, a campaign spokesman says. Details at http://whatcounts1.mediageneral.net/t?ctl=19CF0D:3666150E3008AF73899830CC4C49EE2D&;
McCain got the House Republicans a seat at the table.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/26/debate-commissioner-if-mccain-doesnt-show-its-cancelled/
laree
There is probably a back-door deal completed that we don’t know about and their posturing was probably just like someone who just got their ass kicked but after the other person walked away, they stood up and yelled “And don’t come back!!” Except they didn’t get their ass kicked first…. Now they’ll say “See we told you! We told McCain to leave and now that he is gone and we were able to get something done! Criminal, really
What a stupid move by Liberal Letterman, replacing McCain with libertard Olbermann
McCain coming to Washington got the Dems to sit down with Paulson and the Sen Reps. McCain leaving Washington will get the Dems to finally sit down with the House Reps. Brilliant!
Just saw Obama give an impromptu press briefing on his plane. Net it out ~ I heard him say is his being in Washington was useless. Couldn’t agree more…
The more I think about Dodd opening that bottle of whine this morning the more he makes me laugh.
Yes The same answer at a time of dire financial crisis a pearl harbor of the financial market Obama says “call me if you need me” sigh…that doesn’t sound Presidential, in Newt Gringrich’s words, it sounds like a first term Senator. He even made a comparison to when Obama, was sounding Presidential, and stated he needs to go back to sounding like that.
Imus gave Dodd the mic this morning, it is on record now.
A lot of folks don’t like this bail out.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080926/ap_on_el_pr/ap_poll_financial_meltdown
Notice the word “Decides”. An example of how left the New York Times Is.
Bruce,
You certainly have a deluded sense of self.
Advice: save the inane insults and snide juvenile remarks for someone who cares.
Note: You’re not going to be pushing around, bullying or otherwise accosting anyone on this site without a response from me, period.
ChanX
Comment #373
Let me make this very clear to you and to your friends on this group.
1. I have no delusions of grandeur as you do, nor am I juvenile in my remarks.
2. I am not the Moderator nor anyone other than a poster on Imus Times
3. What inane insults? I did not insult anyone since I resumed posting.
4. Your comment regarding me being on my best behavior was unwarranted.
To recap this. Nothing I said yesterday was nothing but a reaction to a one liner by an infrequent poster SkiWolf. And his leaving this site was not by my statements to him or her back months ago. He took this upon himself.
There are others that refuse to post on this site. I can name names if you wish, but you can see in your logs who hasn’t.
Here is what I wrote to you last night that you did not even have the decency to reply to.
Channel,
There seems to be a personality conflict between you and I. Not once did I attack anyone at Imus Times today, or since I allowed myself to post again after some thoughts about the past things I said.
Yet you find it necessary to comment on the obvious, that I am not the Moderator of Imus Times. Everyone knows that. But to add to that comment “That I have no Standing on this Site I believe was going too far.
Freedom of speech is a two way street. As Moderator of Imus Times does not mean you have any right to call me out on such silliness. This political season has made enemies of people that were once friends and confidants.
You believe in McCain as I do. Donald Ink believes in Barack Obama. You and Donald were having some discussions that were close to being heated. Not once did I step into that mess.
But yet you seemingly feel it is important to call me on one comment to a part-time poster SkiWolf. He doesn’t like embedded links with copy and paste messages and headers above. Something you taught me when we were more friendly.
Something happened that I am not aware of. But unless you ban me or Keith ban’s me I shall continue posting my embedded links to what I think is important for all to discuss. And I really do not care if anyone replies to me or likes them.
Please clear this up today when you get a chance.
As you can see a copy of this email is going to Keith. Keith never would act like this, and had assured me I would never be removed, monitored or banned.
Sincerely,
Bruce
CC: Keith A.
I have finished speaking now. And if you wish to be the “Great Leader”, post it in the open as all true leaders do.
Thank you.
Even the denials are littered with inane, insulting, juvenile, confrontational language. Truly a piece of work…
Moderation? Reference is made to comment #295.
#295 Was thanking you for the Acorn Debacle.
Again Channel you are speaking in tongues. Inane, insulting, juvenile confrontational language.
Since I am so illiterate maybe you can explain that by disecting these words. In other words tell it like it is, not what you think it was.
I believe something has gone wrong that I am not aware of. With that said I have no desire to be badgered by you or anyone else on this site.
You know my email address you can reply there. I have always answered you.
inane means silly or insipid (tasteless). Where in post #295 do you find my comment silly or tasteless?
I want to thank Goiman for attempting to put things in perspective.
My suggestion to you is leave it alone. It will only make matters worse. But I truly thank you.
Update: A Freeper writes, “Senator Graham is referring to Section 5 of the Dodd counter-proposal to the Paulson Plan. To summarize, it promises a minimum 20% of the ‘profits’ from the Treasury’s sale of assets to The Housing Trust Fund and the Capital Magnet Fund.” See here.
Read more here:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/25/kill-the-bailout-more-acorn-funding/
This ACORN aside Goiman is a slipper way of the Democrat Party to create more illegal Voter Registrations.
Thank you from me personally for posting this. It was on Imus Truth earlier. But now it has taken on a life of it’s own.
I read if Obama doesn’t win fair and square this election, he will steal it by using is association to have non-registered voters, via ACORN, to Vote him in.
The worst thing that could happen to the United States in this time of crisis.
Again, Thank You
P.S. Do not be afraid of posting your comment on this site. It is dying as we speak. My Opinion.
I don’t think ACORN can pull it off, they have been outed everywhere. If the election comes down to something ACORN was involved in, the Lawyers will be all over it, like stink on you know what. They both have Lawyers standing by but that doesn’t mean we should give these frauds money meant for the Financial Crisis. I don’t even see the connection. Trying to add this stuff in during a Presidential election cycle, like nobody would notice? People would have to be living on the Moon, not to notice what the Democrats are trying to pull. They really are very bad at what they do, they have earned that 12% approval rating, after this it should be dropping some more.
VIDEO: Burning Down The House – What Caused Our Economic Crisis?
I wish ChannelXRFR would put up a new post with, some of his famous Cliff Notes with the Dodd interview this morning, and add the Video at the top of it -goiman just posted, Burning Down the House -What Caused Our Economic Crisis?
It is excellent, I just put it up in the bulletin section on myspace with a repost request, this video should go viral.
Ree,
I am putting together something that combines that with Imus’ ridiculous inverview with Dodd. Another Democrat Weasel.
Have a good evening.
Fact checking the presidential debates
By CALVIN WOODWARD and JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writers
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Fact check: Context of key debate claims
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Ree, IMO Friday was not Chris Dodd’s finest moment. So I went with Colonel Jack.
New Post Imus: Is This The Crash Of 1929?
http://imustimes.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/imus-is-this-the-crash-of-29/
What they’ve said about being No. 2
By The Associated Press
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Thoughts on the vice presidency:
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