If the real thing don’t do the trick
You better make up something quick
You gonna burn it out to the wick
aren’t you, Barracuda?
Heart
Mr. James, is it warm where you are? Afterall, some say(jokingly, of course) Hillary Is Satan(I visited Hillary in Hell and all I got was this lousy t-shirt). James Carville, I-Fav, is a Big Fish in American Political Waters. Carville has been in the political consulting business for years. He even wrote a book called Stickin’: The Case For Loyalty.
If you are unfamiliar with Stickin’, just ask Governor Bill Richardson how it works. Recently I observed Mr. Carville apply this very technique to the Guv, Carville accusing Richardson of being a Judas. Not at all coincidentally, it happened to be Good Friday! When asked about his Judas accusation Carville replied, “I put one in the wheelhouse,” a baseball phrase meaning to put some heat on the ball. If it had been “the 4th of July I would have called him Benedict Arnold” confirmed Carville.
During a phone interview on Imus in the Morning, Governor Bill Richardson was asked about Mr. Carville’s reference, specifically him being a Judas for changing political camps from Senator Hillary Clinton to Senator Barack Obama. Richardson replied: I have heard of James Carville, I met him a couple of times. Apparently Governor Richardson wasn’t aware of Mr. Carville’s Stickin’ technique until just lately. Richardson had a chance to meet Carville again recently on CNN’S Larry King Live:
Ragin Cajun vs High Plains Drifter.
(That is my new affectionate nickname for Gov Richardson, hoping it will stick too.)
Carville also recently appeared on Imus in the Morning. Carville is emphatic: he is not in the domestic political consulting business anymore. He explains: I am 64 years old, I have children to raise, we are in the process of moving the family New Orleans, back to my roots.
Why James was so adamant that he is no longer a paid political consultant puzzles me. If he is sending signals, what are they? Being 64, is he trying to remind us he has a birthday coming up? Should I send him some I-Love? Raising children, is he telling the ladies he is a “new age male” or is he saying he is virile? Well that’s his wife Mary Mat’s problem isn’t it? I cannot figure out why he is making such a point of not being a paid political consultant anymore, unless someone is complaining about his activities.
James Carville is a political animal. He can smell blood in the water. He will circle you, ’til he finds a spot to stick it in…
He has stated: “Politics is a Contact Sport.” Advising, consulting and commenting on politics is in his nature. For anyone and everyone (see “Governor Bill Richardson”) who would try to make Carville desist, it would be like “Kicking a Dog for scratching it’s fleas.” Sure they would stop, they both want to please. The minute you turn your back and walk away, you know they will start back up again, one behind the sofa, the other shows up on the View, see clip below, it is just their nature
James Carville, knows all about “Political Waters.” What Gov Bill Richardson and Senator Obama don’t “get” is this: It’s not the gators in the shallows you have to worry about. It’s the deep political waters you need to navigate, otherwise known as the “Shark Dip.”
Hey Governor Richardson is it warm where you are?
Saddle up Buckaroos. The water’s choppy.
CNN’s political commentator James Carville, joins “Imus in the Morning” 4/22/2008
I wish I had inserted this in the blog if you want to get an autograph from Mr James Carville, here is a link for the information.
http://www.carville.info/index.html
Ree, Great post..
As much as I like Carville…
…his comments just prior to this past Easter labeling Bill Richardson as “Judas” was repulsive.
Many other politicians , including past administrators and cabinet members know how the “Clinton’s” work. It is, and aways been a one way street for them. It’s about them. Anyone who has served in the past administration of Bill Clinton may have gotten their job because of Bill Clinton…but those people did the work…not Bill Clinton.
Bill Richardson was one of the very few that stood with Bill Clinton during the Monica Lewinski debacle, when many wouldn’t touch him with a ten foot pole.
The thing that grinds a great many of the Democratic hierarchy is the overt presumption of “entitlement” of power the Clinton’s demand and respect . What they do to anyone that does not follow in lockstep with the Clinton’s are , in fact, disparaged in public, (and in private)…and is telling of why tides may turn against their arrogance.
“….his comments just prior to this past Easter labeling Bill Richardson as “Judas” WERE repulsive.”
Correction and apologies.
If this comes up twice, apologies in advance. There is a problem with WordPress getting the comments through (?).
On another topic…
John McCain and Hillary touting their benevolent plan to help the “common folks” by giving a moratorium on the national gas tax is so wrong and stupid…that a first semester college student studying economics could probably write graduate thesis and keep it for a later reference paper…
From Rueters:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080430/pl_nm/usa_politics_gastax_economists_dc_1
..another thing they fail to neglect to mention is the lost revenue to the National Highway and Infrastructure fund…at a time when this country can’t even keep those solvent…and most states are broke.
The real problem is that the dollar is at one of it’s lowest levels ever…so it costs more to import the oil…all this, while the Saudis are claiming that a barrel of oil could hit 200 dollars a gallon…before the end of this year.
Unbelievable stupidity, and shortsightedness…
It’s called, out and out…PANDERING.
Late season snow job…sorry late frost warning BIG GRIN fridged cold front spreading over Indiana, drop in temperatures expected overnight…I can’t help myself this blog lends itself to headlines 🙂
Are the wheels really coming off of the Obama Bus? Read this please.
Obama Paid By Donor Who Got State Grant
Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:20 PM
By: Newsmax Staff Article
As an Illinois state Senator, Barack Obama received more than $100,000 from a company owned by an entrepreneur whom Obama helped to obtain a state grant.
Robert Blackwell Jr., a contributor to Obama’s campaigns, began paying Obama an $8,000-a-month retainer in early 2001 to provide legal advice to his technology firm, Electronic Knowledge Interchange.
At the time, Obama had recently completed his unsuccessful campaign for Congress, and had numerous debts and a law practice he had neglected for a year while campaigning, the Los Angeles Times reported.
Obama had been so strapped for cash that his credit card was initially rejected when he tried to rent a car at the 2000 Democratic convention, Obama disclosed in his book “The Audacity of Hope.”
The monthly payments from EKI supplemented Obama’s $58,000-a-year part-time state Senate salary, and eventually totaled $112,000.
“A few months after he received his final payment from EKI, Obama sent a request on state Senate letterhead urging Illinois officials to provide a $50,000 tourism promotion grant to another Blackwell company, Killerspin,” the Times story disclosed.
Killerspin runs table tennis tournaments around the country and sells its line of equipment and apparel, along with DVD recordings of the tournaments.
The day after Obama wrote his letter urging that Killerspin receive the grant, Blackwell contributed $1,000 to Obama’s Senate campaign.
Killerspin eventually received $320,000 in state grants between 2002 and 2004 to subsidize its competitions.
Blackwell is credited on Obama’s Web site with committing to raise $100,000 to $200,000 for Obama’s presidential campaign.
According to the Times, Obama did not specify on disclosure forms for 2001 and 2002 that EKI provided him with most of his private-sector compensation.
Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs told the Times that Obama did nothing wrong in acting on Blackwell’s behalf for a “worthy project” developed by a constituent.
David Axelrod, Obama’s chief political advisor, was more vehement in his statement: “Any implication that Sen. Obama would risk an ethical breach in order to secure a small grant for a ping pong tournament is nuts.”
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Obama_Donor_state_grant/2008/04/30/92234.html?s=sp&promo_code=4A34-1
Ree,
Your article is well written. And it was an interesting discussion between Carville and Richardson. But I noted that when Carville or Richardson spoke with Imus a weeks or so. Niether of them were so critical of the other.
Of course I know the comment by Carville calling Richardson
“Judas” was said a month or so ago. But I am 180 degrees in the other direction. Hillary is not the Candidate to beat. She will be if nominated the candidate that lost.
Took the liberty of putting together the entire Larry King interview from a different source. It is 17:42 in length. A little better quality too.
BruceTube Click | Here
Ree, nice writing. I could go along with “high plains drifter” for Richardson, but I couldn’t say it affectionately.
Bill Richardson was in way over his head on that Larry King show with Carville.
Ree, nice blog.
If Hillary pulls this thing out, there’s going to be a lot of people who will want to get out of her way, not the least of which will be Bill Richardson, the only hispanic who supports Obama, as Kinky said.
I heard Obama mention at least a couple of times how his mother had cancer and was unable to get the healthcare she needed. I was picturing the poor lady somewhere in Kansas not able to get the treatments she needed.
I just read that his mother lived in Indonesia most of her life and died there in 1995.
No wonder she didn’t have healthcare, people.
Looks like WordPress is beginning to let links through – ThanX for your patience…
Ree, that is too funny, “hell freezes over”. I am watching it now. She’s holding her own with O’Reilly.
You could almost like her… Maybe if she appeared on Imus, well that is when hell freezes over!
One more thing, in terms of views today was one of the biggest days for ImusTimes, ThanX to Ree…
Yeah, that would be when hell REALLY freezes over. I have heard more than one person say though that if she would come on Imus, they would change their negative opinion of her. Somebody needs to whisper in her ear.
Oh, she was great with O’Reilly. I can’t wait till tomorrow night, and yes, I think it would be terrific if she went on Imus and I’m betting it would be a fantastic interview. Wonders never cease, and Imus is always full of surprises.
She fooled alot of people! Did you notice she never answered the hard questions? Come on, don’t be duped by her “nice” ways! Its about the survival of our GREAT country, not if she looks nice!
Rambling with Gambling, lands on his feet with a nYc morning gig!
Source: NY Daily News
“Watchdog” Neil Best Pines For The Old Days…
Leave comments here http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/2008/05/friday_comment_contest_winner_23.html
Get Your Freak on Girl! Nice Job Reeeeeeee!
I’m with you Ginger.
meltdown at ImusTruth.
Go Hillary!
NOBAMA ’08
I was reading this from Imus pipes pretty funny blog about what Kinky is doing in his in btw time.
http://cousinnancy.blogspot.com/2008/04/imus-in-morning.html
To Channels link to Neil Best’s article. This was my response.
“tough doo doo”? I mean like you typed that “out loud”?
LOL – You’re priceless, Bruce. God love ya!
I know Mr. Avatard,
If you can’t tell the truth. Why bother speaking.
I do hope you join a normal site and begin contributing to Imus Times. I think the entire crowd ( who is getting tired of the Imus Truth) site would love that.
Count me in as one of them. I have no ill feelings for you. Nor will I get in the mud and sling it at you any longer. Well, only if you start it yourself.
So have a great day
From: Watchdog Click | Here
I have missed the broadcasts and tv shows you all are discussing, as well as the message board threads and posts since I was traveling this week with my husband on a business trip. Home now, but nursing a cold I picked up along the way. Your thread looks good, Ree. I am looking forward to “digesting” it.
I did just scroll around here, and on the other site. I agree about the complete meltdown over there. Certain ones have gone off the deep end for no apparent reason.
Yesterday would have been my sister’s birthday. She has been gone six years. She had no health insurance. I always think if she’d had access to better health care, her cancer might have been prevented or caught sooner in time to save her, or at least have given her more time with her young children. If we cannot provide quality health care to all our citizens, then we are not the country we think we are.
I have a general sense of “civil unrest” in the air. It is disturbing and unsettling. A good time for me to “get centered” and figure out what is really important to me.
Frec,
Looks like the rest of the group left the States. Sad day to remember a sister passing. And so true about the advances and our Health Care system.
We just (The U.S. Government did) awarded $550 Billion dollars to the farmers to make more corn for Ethanol. Which according to Jim Cramer, who was on Imus this morning, said is a waste of money. The process to make ethanol is more costly then refining oil. And it will not stop our depency on oil. So if this $550 Billion dollars were to be used for say Health Care, or the people losing their homes everyone would benefit.
I really don’t know how our Country can just spend wastefully as we the taxpayers sit by and let it happen.
And HRC’s plan is no good. Obama’s Health Care plan is better but no good. Just give the darn “Big Pharma” a kick in the butt and tell them to lower the costs to the pharmacies. You could go broke getting an aspirin. LOL
Glad you are back. Sad for your sister as it is just that. A Very sad day.
YF,
Bruce
Jeremiah Davis, Program Director at RFD-TV, from the inaugural RFD-TV Newsletter.
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Frec…
Good to see you. Your post #27, the thought you conveyed:
“I have a general sense of “civil unrest” in the air. It is disturbing and unsettling.”
That sentence…that thought, struck a nerve with me…in a positive way, at least for myself…I feel the same thing in the air.
And Ree:
Good Thread….
…do some more! 🙂
Frec, It is bitter sweet a memory and a sibling is like a piece of you. I still remember my Dad’s birthday every year. They live on inside of us. Sometimes something out of the blue will remind me of him and it feels like he is communicating with me wistful thinking.
DonaldInks,
Matt Taibbi has a new article online and I left a comment it is easy to sign up for RollingStone and you get alot of different features when you do. Tom Friedman is right the world is flat.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/20278737/jesus_made_me_puke?utm_source=daily-newsletter&utm_medium=email
Thanks for the link Ree. 😉
As far as religion goes…
…one of my favorite songs by Mike & The Mechanics comes to mind…
“Someone Always Hates Someone”
Last night I shook hands with the devil
In a dream that I can never lose
He laughed when he saw me crying
At the pictures on the evening news
He said its not really a dilemma
You’re just a little out of touch
Don’t think of the situation
Cos it’ll make you think too much
Someone always hates someone
Someone always hates someone
Someone always sells a gun
Cos someone always hates someone
A child will be born tomorrow
As open as an empty cup
And well fill it with hope and sorrow
The very things that messed us up
Well ask him to join the congregation
A Hindu Moslem Christian or Jew
Pretty soon he’ll recognize his brothers
But soon hell know the enemy too
Someone always hates someone
Someone always hates someone
Someone always buys a gun
Cos someone always hates someone
I died and I went to heaven
In a dream I never had before
A good friend who had gone before me
Had kindly left my name at the door
I looked on the face of the almighty
Couldn’t help myself
I started to shout
How come you made a mess of things
How come you didn’t work it out
He said
Someone always hates someone
Someone always hates someone
Theres so much love for everyone
But someone always hates someone
Seems like Hillary took a right
Testicular fortitude? Is that like saying HRC has balls?
Source: NY Post Click | Here
Yes, Chanx, I do believe it does!
HRC has always had testicular fortitude. It’s what makes it possible for her to lie so effortlessly. Well that and a genetic predisposition to lying.
Those Union guys are clever. Hillary did a great job on O’Reilly last night.
Hillary is even getting on the right track regarding Iraq. Admiting the US has achieved military goals ie toppled Saddam, Supporting the installation of a new government..
It is time to think about a US exit. Iraqi military has performed reasonably well in Sadr City and Basra. This gives the Iraqi’s something to build on. From the US the Iraqi’s need logistic support, advanced ground forces tactical training, development of artillery support and air support so they become self sufficient.
Why did Imus spend so much time this morning criticizing O’Reilly?
ChannelX,
When Imus gets finished with an Interview, he doesn’t ask others for a critique of how he did, he isn’t the least bit insecure in his interviewing abilities and he has no reason to be, he is a great interviewer. O’Reilly spent so much time after the Clinton Interview analyizing everything, it was overkill but it is typical O’Reilly, he will showcase himself anyway he can he is a showman this is part of his appeal.
I agreed with Imus about the way he ended the interview telling Senator Clinton, you know this is the most fun interview you have done and she was trying to be gracious, he came off as tedious, with his rejoiner about Cher being his most fun interview. Point goes to Hillary, you have to give the devil her due, she got what she came for exposure for the independent and swing voters. It looks like O’Reilly got a ratings spike so all partys were served 🙂
Imus raised a legitimate point regarding OReilly. Imus started to loose me on it around the 10th time he brought it up. Classic obsessive Imus, I suppose.
The Tonyest Powell was good this AM. A point not yet raised in the Imus race discussion is the contention between Blacks and Hispanics.
Ree…
I really enjoyed your comment at Matt Taibbi (Post #32).
After Re-reading his column at Rolling Stone…another song came to mind:
Genesis: “Jesus He knows Me”…
…again, thanks for the link. 🙂
uh oh…
from Drudge:
“YOUTUBE FLASHBACK SHOCK: Clinton Advisor: Indianans ‘Shit’, ‘Worthless White N**gers’…”
Interesting WHO is in this video…
Recurring theme threaded throughout today’s show…parts of the Pete Hamill interview dealing with Obama and Rev. Wright, the Barbara Walter’s excerpts re her dating Sen. Edward Brooks, the book-interview with Linda Nieves-Powell dealing with “light-skinned versus dark-skinned” bias…as well as related controversy about Obama’s so-called “elitism,” all put me in mind of a particular book on my shelf, and sent me in search of it…
“Our Kind of People: Inside America’s Black Upper Class” by Lawrence Otis Graham (2000). I’m not recommending it because it’s mostly a dull rendition of Who’s Who in Black America, where they went to school, and what clubs they belong to. What’s most interesting is the viewpoint expressed in the book’s lengthy introduction. Here’s a sample in which the author talks about the controversy his book ignited within the black community:
Mr. Graham maintains there indeed is a carefully cultivated sub-group of elites in black society, and he claims membership in it. The book predates Obama’s rise but, given his lack of lineage, it’s doubtful Obama is really one of them.
Imus endorses Hillary for the democratic nomination? For those of you who don’t want Hillary, REJOICE!…his endorsement could be the kiss of death LOL….i.e. Kerry, Ford
O’Reilly was obviously so beside himself regarding the interview with Hillary. It reminded me of Sally Field’s win at the Oscar’s “You like me, you really like me.” O’Reilly’s insecurities were starting to show. I thought it was a great interview, but come on, O’Reilly, relax..she was!
I enjoyed the interview with Tony’s wife (sorry, I can’t remember her name at the moment).
I like Tony. He can be very funny. I think he is a good addition. I have nothing against Karith but that sparkle doesn’t seem to be there with her. I’ll hang in there with her though. She has had some good moments overall.
I have a lot of confidence in the new show and I do it enjoy it every day. It’s a part of my daily routine. It’s where I get my news and much needed laughs for the day.
Linda Nieves-Powell–thanks Frec… if I had waited a couple of minutes I would have been able to “remember” her name.. ha
Ginger:
Comedy of Errors today! The Spanish-to-English mix-ups were quite amusing. Imus was trying to say Tony’s wife’s name, but it came out “nuevo” which, although not her name, Imus pronounced correctly, and it means “new.” Karith tried to correct him on the name, only she misheard “nuevo” as “huevos” which means “eggs.” You know what banter came after that…. 🙂
The correct name “nieves” means “snow.”
Bruce….
THANK YOU for the entire Dick Gregory interview Youtube. Much appreciated! I missed the entire last hour of it. 😉
You are so welcome Donald,
Though the whole 52 minutes is on Yahoo Videos. Only place I can put a larger in time of presentations. It was nothing special. Just something I like to do.
Later.
By the way anyone interested in reading that McCain Health Care Plan should just click on the quote.
Dang the funniest things happen when you Google Don Imus………….
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/2008/05/don_imus_ratings_at_wabc_are_l.html
Wow………
Will this convince the OLD Imus to come back?
What say you?
My Reply to Neil Best.
HQ, Best thing about business you are always being challenged to do better. The numbers that came out this week set the Imus WABC baseline. Even with an overall 8th expect Imus will be making adjustments to improve the results..
Frec and Ginger I’m not complaining about the program today. Listened to it from beginning to end, so it wasn’t horrible. Sort of wondering where Imus is headed with the O’Reilly stuff. Especially with Fox Business and Fox News Channel advertising on IITM.
Chanx, I think it probably means that he likes him (O’Reilly), that is, as much as anyone can like him.
And as much as Imus can like anyone 🙂 Funny thing about Imus he demonstrates affection in odd ways.
And to add to that he really did a number on Barbara Walters. Though he was speaking in a positive manner, the side talk by Bernie and others kind of put “BAB’s” under the Microscope.
I sure hope she still appears on Imus next week. It should be interesting.
Yes Channel, Imus does show his affection for people in strange ways. But those that know him, love his being upfront, not holding back.
It was a good show. Should have some terrific clips over the weekend. A lot of good stuff.
So Sharpton can hold Imus and NYC down………….
http://www.wnbc.com/news/16124663/detail.html
Wow……
http://www.wnbc.com/news/16124663/detail.html
Sharpton’s in charge of the airwaves and NYC!!!!!!
Imus continually struggles to overcome his “inner curmudgeon.” Today’s story about the old lady and the piano recital was another hoot! He almost can’t help himself and, after all, his being a meany WAS the show’s original CASH COW (pun intended.)
Sure, there’s a debate about Old-versus-New-Imus. Old? New?? Old-New?? New-New??? How ’bout Imus has been working on “change” for years? Bad old MessyNBC hardly ever lifted a finger to advertise the Imus show when it was theirs, but even they had a short-lived promo that featured Tim Russert urging the audience to tune-in to “that lovable curmudgeon.”
Frankly, I’ll take today’s Imus. I’ve been around too many of the old-Imus personalities to want to spend a minute’s discretionary time with them…if I’d tried to listen “back in the day,” I’d probably have tuned-out in a New York Minute. Even so, I’ve learned along the way to “take what I like and leave the rest.”
And that Frec is everything in a nutshell. The new Imus is better in many different ways. Not a curmudgeon, not getting so close to the line to create a fire storm, but still able to reach beyond the normal boundaries of the sanitized talk show hosts.
PC is not a word in his vocabulary. And the fact he talks about race is something he vowed to do when he came back. And with this election (erection) being such as it is, it is a very interesting dialog he is carrying on.
And to call Karith and Tony Tokens???? What the heck is that all about? Some of what Karith and Tony say goes beyond what Imus use to say. But there is an understanding.
If you or anyone has noticed, Imus runs them hard and doesn’t give them a free reign on what they say.
Listen to the 9AM hour when they are off RFD TV you can see how he manipulates not only them, but others on the program.
He is the master. There is only one Imus.
Thank you Frec.
I “crossed over” to the other place and listened to the audio of Imus’ 1996 interview with Barbara Walters. Well well worth the half-hour time investment. It will be interesting (or should I say ‘fascinating’) to see if the same warmth and quality of friendship still exists between them when Ms. Walters comes on IITM on May 7.
The last time I saw them on camera together was when Imus was himself selected as one of her 10 Most Fascinating of 2007. In that interview, I felt Imus was more than a little testy with her…not nearly as forthcoming about himself as he was in this dated interview where she, not he, was the subject.
His “dissing about her dishing” — which we heard on yesterday’s show — will not keep her away from her scheduled appearance. She knows she’s going to be under a lot of microscopes with this book release…she hopes so anyway…that’s how books are sold. I’m sure I will want to read it…we’ll see if I can hold out for the paperback whenever down the road that is done. 🙂
Stringer is still talking Imus………….
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/NEWS/804280322/1001/NEWS
ENJOY!
Thanks for that link, Harley. I’ll try to be fair to Coach Stringer. She’s overcome great hardships and achieved much against long odds. If she’d failed to mention Imus in her book, notwithstanding only in the last chapter, she’d have been faulted for that. He’s who everyone wants to hear about. Such is the far-reaching influence of Imus that he simply cannot be ignored…she’s not the first to learn it.
For those of us who only watch RFD TV and miss the last hour on the Radio. Here is the last hour compiled into 37 minutes. Listen and watch if you wish.
BruceYahooTubes
“I “crossed over” to the other place ” also…and the ranting is never ending about Bernie…and the want for Imus to be as he was prior to his firing.
Well, now that he is back he is doing what he said he was going to. Personally, the following is just my own perspective and thoughts on Imus…in 2008:
I haven’t been “privileged” to read his contract with WABC…but I would bet that it doesn’t include some of the language that gave him the free reign to do whatever he wants to do, as he once did at WFAN.
One major consideration that has vastly overlooked and unspoken of, is his relationship with RFD.
In the past, when at WFAN and MSNBC, you hardly heard anything bleeped out or censored.
That has all been changed. On the first broadcast that Imus had Dick Gregory on in the third hour…nothing was bleeped or censored.
The very next day, Imus replayed some clips of that very same interview from that very same time…and there were “bleeps” galore on RFD.
I don’t know if that happened at WABC…(Bruce, maybe you can help here…) because I only tape the show from RFD, not WABC.
My point is…RFD will never broadcast the same show Imus did prior to his firing. Will WABC? I don’t know.
I do know that Imus is walking a tightrope…and he is for a reason.
So the choice is, you want what you had?…or are happy he’s back?
I loved the show before he was fired…and I like the new show now.
It’s different, sure. That is a fact.
That old saying “you can never go back” may be true…but especially now, after what happened…could he ever go back?
From the points I made above…he is where he is for two reasons:
He wanted to seriously go into another direction with his show…
…or he can’t.
Certainly not with RFD.
As for WABC? Unless we all can read his contract…we will never know.
I say we cut him some major slack…and enjoy the old Cowboy while he’s still around….
…or…you can continue to complain and bitch…and send him emails that say his show sucks and hope for a miracle.
It will take much more than bitching emails to change what he is now locked into…and where he personally wants to take his show.
Looking back from last April of 2007 after he was fired…and tuning in every Monday through Friday at 6 A.M. and seeing and hearing “Imus In The Morning”…now that IS a miracle.
Miracles do happen.
For those that “prayed” that Imus would return?
Be careful what you “pray for”…you MIGHT not like the answers to your prayers.
Have a great weekend all! 😉
…by the way:
Nice job on whoever put up the following MySpace….
http://www.myspace.com/getoffmyphone
What is the problem with WordPress not letting posts with links through?
This is my second try…sorry if it comes up twice.
…by the way:
Nice job on whoever put up the following MySpace….
http://www.myspace.com/getoffmyphone
Thank you Bruce!
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/2530026/7658545
Donaldinks,
I record the WABC stream for the full four hours, and I’ve never heard anything bleeped or censored.
Thank you Alison…
…that leaves me to believe that RFD is, indeed, what might be “hamstringing” Imus.
I appreciate your reply to the situation. 🙂
Watched the RFD Flashback of the Dick Gregory appearance. Found the editing to be extremely disappointing. Gregory was addressing the use of the “N” word and what it means in terms of race relations. RFD’s bleeping made a mockery of the point Gregory was making.
I am not a fan of the “N” word, it makes me very uncomfortable. Having said that Gregory was making a strong point which RFD diluted.
Channel,
You did get the unaltered version via Yahoo Presentations. And as I said. Gregory’s use of the “N” word was in context not calling anyone that.
If you didn’t get it I can send it again.
Since I do not get RFD I have no idea what they censor or not. But frankly if they bleeped that they are in trouble. Wait till Imus finds out. Or maybe he has and just won’t throw Patrick Gotsch under the bus just yet.
Just click on the below link. It is the total 52 minutes of Dick Gregory. No censoring. Starts with Jeremiah Wrights rant.
DickGregoryonBrucesYahooTubes
Enjoy
Brings up one question, is RFD the right venue for the Imus race discussion?
No, no, and no. It is not.
The race thing is Imus’ deal. I don’t believe he should have been fired for the NHH incident. I think it is illogical to fire one man for saying what was called a racial slur and overlooking it when someone else does that and worse. I didn’t like Dick Gregory’s use of the n word and so I did not listen to the whol thing, so I won’t comment on that. (Never hear that word on the “old” IITM program) But the word is not something I want to hear. That is my choice. I really don’t care what his reason was or what his context was.
But, as I started to say, the race thing is Imus’ deal. If he feels he needs to atone for the rest of his life and have this discussion about race, he should do that on his own personal time. If he wants to do it on tv or the radio, he should buy the time and call it what it is. He is a very wealthy man so he could afford to do that. But I don’t have any desire to listen to it. I was listening with interest to Linda (Powell) but the minute she brought up the racial stuff, I turned the channel. IITM is an entertainment program, or used to be. It is not a racial rehab center or Race Relations 101.
Bella,
I will not dispute your feelings on that nasty word. But if you count the times Gregory used it you would be amazed how little it was used. And though I said in Context. It was an attempt to understand how and why certain words mean what.
Cannot make you listen nor even challenge you to listen. But I will stress that unless this Great Country of ours does not start talking about it. Racism will continue as long as you and I live. And that isn’t cool at all.
Said once before and will repeat myself, and this is to all who like me, hate that word in any context. It is a word. And it truly doesn’t mean the person you are talking to is African/American. It can apply to Caucasian’s too.
Here is the shortened version on YouTube. I call it the teaser from the following day.
BruceYouTubes
Just click on it. It will run.
I hear you Bella and appreciate your contributions to this group. Also understand how you feel.
Bruce sent me a link to a Youtube presentation today of the Imus 9 to 10am broadcast at WABC on May 2nd.
There is a STARK difference.
Bella, if you can listen to the last hour of Imus on WABC…you would be surprised. It is more like the “old program” many out there have been craving for.
In my opinion, RFD is responsible for hamstringing Imus. Just from listening to the 9 to 10am slot has convinced me of this.
ChanX, the RIGHT question might be: Is RFD the right venue for Imus?
As I stated in post #60…we will never really know what Imus has for his true intentions…unless maybe there are major shake-ups…and I don’t mean in regard to WABC.
And as far as what Dick Gregory said…and did say…he had the right. We, as listeners can shut it off or listen. Personally…I was not offended because I could understand what he was saying…and in what context.
As far as “But the word is not something I want to hear. “, I can only say this: unless you are a saint…that “word” has entered all of our minds at one time or another. Indeed, it is repulsive.
But Dick Gregory did not “invent” the word…nor was he the first to use it as an appellation to another race or person.
I agree with what Chanx said in post#63:
“I am not a fan of the “N” word, it makes me very uncomfortable. Having said that Gregory was making a strong point which RFD diluted.”
Not only diluted the message, but rendered it useless.
Bruce, what is ironic is that the N word was never used on the old IITM program by anyone that I ever heard. I believe it is one of the words not allowed by the FCC, isn’t it? Now, if I listen to Imus, I have to listen to a word I don’t use and a word that I don’t want to hear. (But then I don’t like the bleeping either). Why use a word that has to be bleeped? Now if my grandchildren had happened to be here, I wouldn’t want them to hear it either. On the old program, you really had to pay close attention to know when they were being risque, a child wouldn’t even pick it up. Even the now famous NHH comment was said by Imus in a softly spoken manner that a kid wouldn’t even notice. Jeremiah Wright was much more offensive in church than that comment was.
Just ironic.
Just because a word may enter my mind doesn’t mean I want to hear someone use it. And I must be pretty close to a saint because I never thought of the word, until NOW, when it seems my face is being rubbed in it.
Frec:.
..LOL…I saw your comment about Bernie coming back as “the Cardinal”.
He has only been on once since Imus returned.
It was on “Leap Day”.
“Leap Day” only occurs every 4 years…
coincidence?…or a message?
LOL 😉
“On the old program, you really had to pay close attention to know when they were being risque, a child wouldn’t even pick it up.”
…if the child was what…2 or 3 years old?
Bella…that is totally delusional…and totally incorrect.
Bruce, maybe you could post a “greatest hits” from my C.D. collection I sent to the I-Nation last August to refresh some memories… 🙂
Here’s one for you Bella:
“…oh Janis, you are such a slut”.
Imus, talking to Janis Dean…and THAT wasn’t bleeped on MSNBC…and certainly not on WFAN.
…Mommy…what is a slut?……
LOL
Janice Dean…correction and apologies.
I shall not make this a heated discussion on the use of the “N” word. And everyone knows Don Imus or the gang never used the word. Before or now.
However, when interviewing Dick Gregory this word is not used in the sense of a parody or a slur. It is said in explaining it’s origin and how someone feels when it is said to them, about them, or around them.
My Parents, Grand-Parent’s and to this day my Uncle from New Jersey thinks nothing of using it. Took awhile to teach my Father not to ever use that word. And never taught it to my children. They learned it’s use on their own.
So we shall let this subject fall by the way side. And live in a land that will continue to be full of “Closet Racist’s”. And Don Imus no matter who say’s he is one, they are wrong.
The discussion about race and issues in this Election will continue until November. And may still continue beyond. To add one thing about RFD.
If RFD is going to censor Imus, he is on the wrong broadcast network. They should know better. And it might be time to write or email RFD about this.
Here is Patrick’s Email address patrick@rfdtv.com
Good night gang. Dinner and Nascar for me now plus a later presentation compilation.
Do you have any children, DI? I think you are the one who is delusional, since you brought it up. You make assumptions of what is in someone else’s mind.
I never hear the n word used here. Maybe it is used more in the north.
I think what we have here are some people who did not like the old show.
Plus I don’t care what the origin of the n word is. I do not care.
You live in the Northern part of Florida Bella. I live in the South West. I have not heard it used either. But with all the crime in Tampa and the surrounding areas be assured that word is used.
So enough said. Donald is fine with his views. And you are fine with your’s.
So peace and love to all.
Peace, Bruce.
Yes, I’m sure there are plenty of offensive used, but maybe it’s all in the company you keep.
**offensive words used. Sorry
In 1974, the U.S. Supreme Court agreed with the FCC’s indecency judgment on Carlin’s comedy monologue about seven words you can never say on TV (which he said repeatedly in a radio broadcast of the piece). These days, U2 frontman Bono can say the F-word during the 2003 Golden Globe Awards broadcast, and the FCC rules it as not obscene.
It appears that the FCC doesn’t have a list of banned words, and context is everything. Words can be objectionable depending on how they’re used and intended. Bono’s exclamation used the F-word as an adjective to describe his excitement. The FCC found his use to be “fleeting and isolated.”
The FCC prohibits uses of the F-word and similar words “to describe or depict sexual and excretory organs and activities.” Carlin’s act was an examination of dirty words and their meaning and uses, more than an attempt to show crude actions. But the comedian’s constant repetition of these words contributed to the performance’s “indecent” label. The original broadcast was at 2�p.m., when children could have been listening, and that was part of the case against the radio station.
The FCC’s responsibility is to enforce federal obscenity laws. Even these laws don’t define obscenity with a list of words or uses. Instead, material must meet three requirements to be considered obscene:
* Applying community standards, an average person must find that the material appeals to the prurient interest.
* The material shows or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by law.
* The material, as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
…would the word SLUT be banned from 6am to 9am?
It wasn’t on MSNBC or WFAN on the “old” IITM.
…again “Grandma, what’s a slut?”
“It appears that the FCC doesn’t have a list of banned words, and context is everything.”
Major difference.
“Do you have any children, DI?”
Yes Bella, I raised two daughters on my own since they were 3 and 5 years old.
I now have 6 Grandchildren, and TWO more on the way. One This August, and another in January.
Thanks for asking.
Congratulations! With the two on the way, you beat me out by one.
Donald,
They are crazy if they think showing up in Imus’ window with offensive picket signs is going to do anything but raise his ire. I hope they are joking.
Growing up, I was taught you’ll catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
And Bella…
Please forgive me if you think I am attacking what core values you hold, or your beliefs. I am not.
I am trying to illustrate differences is view, and point out real facts on what the Imus In The Morning Show WAS…and some of the language it contained…both on radio and television.
So far as I can see, we seem to agree to disagree on the use of the “N” word. Yes, it is in fact a horrible word. All I was trying to say was that a 76 year old Afro-American has the right to speak for himself and relate personal experiences.
It is unfortunate that a “word” that Caucasian people used against Afro-Americans causes distress to Caucasian people in this time.
Dick Gregory was explaining the “discomfort” of being on the receiving end of that slur in his life.
That…is something that neither you, nor I could ever hope to understand…or comprehend.
It isn’t pleasant to hear. It makes us uncomfortable when we hear Dick Gregory tell his story. It happened. That was his take on what we cannot comprehend.
Imus said that he thought it was the best interview in his 30 year career.
I thought it was also.
Frec:
LOL…I HAD to grow up a LONG time ago…lol.
They will learn…hopefully. 🙂
“I have learnt silence from the talkative, toleration from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind; yet strange, I am ungrateful to these teachers.”
Kahlil Gibran
(1883 – 1931)
Something to think about …maybe.
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It’s one thing to write pathetic racist comments under the anonymity of the Internet. Its an entirely different matter to put those pathetic statements on a stick and march around in front of television cameras.
Hoping someone does picket Imus’ window. It will be interesting to see what stupid looks like!
ChannelX
Doesn’t Bo Dietl provide security for Imus in the Morning? Now there would be a photo op, Bo getting a chance to use his new “Stinger” That is priceless advertizing, I would love to have a photocopy of that pic, with an autograph 🙂
Ree..
Were you responsible for the “I Man” MySpace page?
Whoever put it together, that was pure genius. 😉
Frec: Where did they say they were going to “picket with offensive signs”? I believe I read they wanted to hold up a sign asking for “more Bernie”. Where is that offensive? At least someone or somebodies are trying to accomplish something instead of always just complaining about it on a website. Good luck to them!!
Help me out here. Where is this picketing information coming from? I have searched high and low and have not found one article on such a situation.
Are these unfounded rumors? If it isn’t what are they picketing for?
I say it would be good for some PRESS, let them picket right across the street from Madison Square Garden 🙂 All that happens is that they pull blinds at the rainbow studio window. I watch RFD TV when they want the window covered, that is what they do, they pull blinds. In the mean time just like when people showed up to The Today Show, last June 29th, security moved them beyond a barrier out of camera shot. “Is this about people wanting to get on TV for attention?” Like the “don’t taze me bro” kid? Does someone want to get into the newscycle – youtube clip…I can even come up with the soundbyte “Don’t Stingerize me Bo” Too FUNNY LOL.
The regular police come in and they have all kinds of city ordinances at their disposal to “Fine” people who won’t move along. On the other hand the Program gets some Press – free publicity. This isn’t any of these peoples first Rodeo, they have been in Radio along time. I believe they have seen it all but by all means the people who want to picket, should try and re -invent the wheel, see where it gets them.
DonaldInks,
Yes Ginger and I thought it would be a good idea to put up a Imus On Air myspace page, for the show and promote the Imus Radiothon on Myspace. Myspace is a huge community it would be great if they could take out an add like the “Operation Myspace” where they were live from Kuwait. We put a widget on the myspace page that takes people to 77WABC Imus on Air and the widget for Imus’s Radiothon. Under Utilized we already Have Curtis Swila added, I will post the link next comment.
Here is the link to the myspace page.
http://www.myspace.com/getoffmyphone
It started on Imus Truth as a “bring back Bernie” thing. Of course then some wacknut wanted to add, “dump the tokens”. Will never happen. People like this typing on the internet never have the guts to actually do something. Their idea of doing something is typing.
GoIman & Bruce,
It’s was a sub-thread of comments yesterday on the site with the absentee landlord that is diminishing in decency, let alone civility, unless “Cid” posts which he hasn’t for a while.
Showing up in the window with “Bring Back Bernie” signs is one thing…no problem with that…but another crude, name-calling sign against Tony and Karith was also proposed. That’s not going to get the result they want from Imus…it would backfire, in fact. I hope they are joking.
My suggestion was if they want results, i.e., more air-time for Bernie, they could be more effective by getting Craig Crawford’s parents to ask Craig to ask Imus…that’s how we got the one-and-only Cardinal back which Donald noted above was “Leap Day,” so it might be only a once-every-four-years thing 🙂
goiman..
“Where did they say they were going to “picket with offensive signs”? I believe I read they wanted to hold up a sign asking for “more Bernie”. Where is that offensive?”
I believe it was being discussed at another Imus site. The “offensive” content would pertain to suggesting carrying signs saying “Dump The Tokens”.
Frec,
Well that’s a horse of a different color. That site has the most ignorant people on it. So what they say is Horse-Pucky to me.
Thanks Frec. No one will be picketing in front of Imus’ window. Even if they did a nice installation of a shade would work.
And thanks Avartarless for clearing it up too.
avatarless:
Sorry for repeating your post. I was typing mine when you posted yours. Apologies, and thanks! 🙂
I thought it was to send emails on a certain day to say we want Bernie back, for those who are “crossing over to the other site” to read but who will not post there for whatever reason. I like Imus Truth as well as this site because they were both started as a result of the outrage of last April. We were trying to find an outlet and a way to get our message out and there were many other sites, as well, but these two seem to have endured. It got me started on the internet and I have learned a lot about a lot of things as a result.
There are differences between the sites, one being that on Imus Truth anyone can come on and post, you have to sign up, you can use whatever name you want to for the moment, you can change names and one person can post as many, or you can post without a name at all. When you don’t have to stick to a name and develop some sort of intregrity, it makes is easy to say things you wouldn’t ordinarily say. Some disagree with me that this makes any difference in that we are all anonymous, but I think it does because if you have to stick to the same name, you get the credit or the discredit for whatever you say. On this site, you have to sign up and appear under the same name each and every time you post.
Anyway, how is it bad to have a free speech zone, even if you do have some “ignorant people” posting? Why is it free speech only when everyone agrees?
*you don’t have to sign up.
I was reading this and had to pass it on just for the “headline” Malkin really enjoying herself today 🙂 If you scroll down in this blog there is a Michael Graham video, he often is a guest on Imus in the Morning.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/03/my-immigrant-vagina-is-angry-and-other-militant-may-day-moments/
Yes Bella,
Diversity is the spice of life. But ignorance on the part of some on Imus Truth is intolerable.
The controls are gone. The Strong outspoken have left the site to be in a more civil place. Someone, anyone who have big ones and can handle the BS over there should take DumptheTokens out. He or She posts more there then I ever did. And it’s truly wrong, wrong wrong.
So you can have that site and all the ignorance that goes with it. I know you don’t believe what that person says so I am not speaking of you or Ree or Frec.
PTBartman made a post there this morning explaining how common the name “Hussein” was. Because DumptheTokens thinks it is funny to call Barack Obama, Hussein Obama.
So don’t take this rant personally. I just know that those new posters over there are way off base when it comes to Imus and this election season.
Peace on Sunday
And speaking of offensive signs…..
Yes, I do agree some are off base, but I think a long time before I call someone ignorant.
There are a few posters here, all of whom agree, so you have a nice, “civil” conversation. I don’t think you learn much that way.
Besides that, if you read any of the comment sections of almost any site on the internet, you will see truly outlandish and offensive statements. I’ve been on this site a long time and I hate to be this way, but I am beginning to feel unwelcome here. So I guess you all can just keep your little clique going and blast anyone who happens to disagree. So much for free speech.
What I don’t understand is why do you read on Imus Truth and then bring it here on this site? Just don’t read it.
Where is Terry Bradshaw?
http://getoffmyphone.blogspot.com/2008/05/keeping-faith.html
Enough is enough.
Good day Bella
And now you want to know why I monitor The IMUS (Untruth) Site?
You find this interesting banter? Positive etc. Well when my name is mentioned out of the blue I take exception. And this FreedomofSpeech Eight Belles should ring the the bells of death. “For whom the Bell Tolls”.
God Bless Freedom of Speech. But not hate speech or bigoted speech.
I think we know someone who was fired for saying three words on the air at 6:14AM April 4, 2007, because of weasels at NBC and CBS.
And now that the air is clear. The chickens are nestled comfortably in their own den of pure hate. Here is the comedy from Fridays Imus in the Morning.
It includes the interview with Tony’s wife Linda Nieves Powell and a little comment by Deirdre.
Click on the link to view and listen
BrucesYahooTubes
Bella:
I do appreciate you posting here and elsewhere. You are one of the originals… When you were illin’, we didn’t know what was going on, but we missed your presence…or I should just speak for myself. When you returned, it was cause for celebration.
I like your new floral avatar…very colorful.
II’m a Bella fan. Always was and always will be.
Not to beat a dead horse, they weren’t going to picket, just show how much Bernire is missed. Is anyone on here going to email next weekend? Some on the other site seem to be doing so. I might, can’t hurt:)
Here’s my Free Speech to no one in particular, freely spoken…and it’s free too, no charge… 🙂
We don’t have to agree all of the time, and we don’t. Each one of us is capable and free to be disagreeable. My own disagreeable inner “devil frog” (the avatar) gets stirred up on a regular basis. However, I’ve learned when “she” starts hopping, it’s “my” life that becomes unmanageable.
Therefore, I want to keep that frog from leaping into the abyss, even as I continue to be a work-in-progress. Maintaining self-respect and respect for others is important to me. Believe it or not, the interaction on these sites, as well as observing Imus go about his latest metamorphosis has helped my PG&D (personal growth and development).
Thanks for “listening.” I’ll keep coming back.
I think I was the one who introduced the word “picketing…” That was the mental image of standing, or possibly walking, with signage conveyed to me. I didn’t mean to be inflammatory, and I apologize for being “dramatic.” Growing up, my mother nicknamed me “Sarah Bernhardt.” There was a reason for that. More PG&D for me.
I feel if e-mails or window-signs to petition for a larger role for Bernie are respectful, then they might “not hurt.” Messages that are personally derogatory to individuals or groups, such as was suggested against Karith and Tony…? NO! I wouldn’t want to be associated with that in any way.
Besides, it will royally piss-off the I-Man if he gets wind of it — how will that get Bernie a larger role? Imus may have “changed,” but not entirely.
Some of us need more PG&D than others, Frec, and I need a lot. I am by myself a lot and sometimes I sort of “think out loud”. I may change my opinion at a later time. Most of the time, though, I have pretty well already sorted through everything before I get to my opinion. But it is just that, my opinion. I don’t try to change anyone’s mind, I am just saying what I think about it. I think everyone else should be able to say what they think about it.
Who said they were going to do signs? I never saw that. I thought it was supposed to be sending emails. But anyway I don’t think anyone is going to do anything distasteful. (Except maybe those signs the immigrants are holding in the above link).
Bella,
I believe in the right to change ones mind. Some might want to denigrate that as “flip-flopping,” but I don’t believe that…I call it being flexible…
lol
Bella,
The signs-in-the-window stuff was posted on IT yesterday between noon and 1 pm…
Bella,
I don’t know what do you think Imus would think if he did see “those immigrant signs” brings some lady’s special needs commericals to mind 🙂 My response to their sign “Honey this is America, we make something for that, your coochee doesn’t have to be angry anymore” LMAO.
Frec,
Remember I posted about the Turks trying to claim the “Melungeons” they have moved on to American Indians and now we are pushing back at that propaganda. Also the “Melungeon Historical Society” has been formed to offset the damage done by the Melungeon Heritage Association’s association with the ATAA and their poltical agenda re the Armenian genocide. This is really a good blog because they were trying to use the Cherokee turban head dress as proof of American Indian -Turkish heritage…there are some real poor historians out there peddling alot of “Bogus” American Heritage. Fake genealogy has been used for centuries for scams and cons, it looks like the more things change, the more they stay the same.
http://historical-melungeons.blogspot.com/2008/04/where-did-cherokee-get-their-turbans.html
I love you, Bella!!
Hey, just so there is no ambiguity, this is from ImusTruth “Barbara’s Bombshells”…
I do want to see this person standing outside of Rainbow Studios with their pathetic sign, just to get a good look at stupid.
Frec and Channel,
You took the words right out of my mouth.
“Stupid is as Stupid does” And it types too.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109830/quotes
By Forest Gump 1994
I see that now, Chanx. But the very next post says, “I wouldn’t do that, it might hurt someone’s feelings”, or something to that effect. So even though one person made that suggestion, it was promptly dissed and I don’t think it would ever happen. I’ve seen some crazy things posted but not from any of the people who have names. (I’m a nut about the names — surprise!). Who knows who it is when they sign as some sort of slogan like dump the tokens or dump the dump or you heard it here foist or any number of other things I have seen.
Don’t think the signs outside the studio will happen either. People like this are looking for attention, preferring others to do their bidding. Unfortunate though, because I really want to see stupid.
Also, I had always posted on both sites. Different discussions, often about the same subject. Have been helping Keith here since January, takes up a lot of time. So for me, where I comment is more about time management then “elitism” 🙂
Bella:
I hope I personally, in conduct or discourse, have not made you feel unwelcome here. I have said many times that everyone is entitled to their opinions. I also know you have been here from the start…way back last April, and hold you in high regard.
Everyone has the right to express their opinions…heck, this is cyberspace and anyone can type just about anything they care to.
Yes, I do read ImusTruth…and the reason is: I have hoped that posters there would refrain from some of their racist bigotry. I was hoping that some of the old posters would call them out and shine a light on them and hold them accountable.
Only a few have.
So I post here for that reason, and for the simple reason that still up to this day, posters can argue their points, stick to those points…and not get into a ” personal attack” frame of discourse.
By no means should you EVER feel you are being “talked down to” or “lectured to”. No poster here should ever come away from this site feeling that way.
Again, if I personally made you feel that way…I apologize.
Personal attacks on posters, to me, shows lack of civility. Debating issues is a good thing. Debating the posters that post comments is uncalled for and repugnant.
That doesn’t mean I am right, or you are wrong…it is common civil discourse…and for that reason alone I don’t post at ImusTruth.
To me, … ImusTruth is but a perverted shadow of what it once was. I was there from the beginning…and at some point one must just let it go.
Hope?
I still have hope that some civility will return there. If it ever does, I may post again there.
When I read posters still disparaging me personally there…yup. It hurts.
One: I will not, or have disparaged another poster from that site here. Why would I? For what purpose?
Two: You are known by the company you keep. For that reason alone, I will not partake in “discussion” at ImusTruth.
It is the same at a lot of different places on the web where people can “post comments”.
The difference ( to me at least) is Don Imus’ name is at the front heading of that site. It doesn’t reflect well on Imus, nor of his “fans”.
So keep on coming back Bella, you are in good company here, and well respected. 🙂
One last thought: on “elitism” . That word gets thrown around too much. It is a cheap attack on people that others can (either) not relate to, argue principles within civil discourse, or don’t want to discuss honest issues with…as opposed to debating a persons character.
If holding to personal convictions and trying to keep a moral centered ground is “elitism” …well, I stand here today guilty before my judges and the jury out in cyberspace.
Guilty as charged… 😉
I think you’re wrong in your critique of Imus Truth, DI. I don’t see it as a poster’s responsibility to “call out” another poster, as in lecture them. That is just my opinion.
In my opinion, the tone of your post is condescending. Again, my opinion. I could be wrong. I do appreciate your kind words towards me.
With that, I will say no more.
Donald is not commenting on ImusTruth on principle. Bella is commenting on ImusTruth to stay in the discussion. Both perfectly rational positions.
I don’t think you’re being condescending, Donald. I think you’re right (about Imustruth).
ChanX:
If we haven’t said it lately, ThanX, for the Yeoman’s Work you do on this site to our benefit. If it has been said lately…well, it just bears repeating…
OK…. The gloves are off…I have had enough of wishy washy statements that defend the offenders.
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Channel quotes a DumpTheTokens hate speech and rhetoric. You are offended by any use of the “N” word, but yet you say nothing to Mr. or Mrs. Dump.
Bella you have been a person of integrity but yet you feel the home site, IUT, is being bashed. Bashed by who? Tell me and the group of level minded posters.
So you believe if there isn’t controversy nothing get’s accomplished. Well then get something accomplished and come out swinging. That’s not a challenge by the way. It’s a fact. If you wish controversy then let have it. We haven’t had excitement around here in awhile and maybe it’s time to let the cream come to the top.
You have known me, Donald, Frec, Linda, Ree/Laree, PTB, Channel and Mike for over a year. We all do not agree on everything. But we also don’t act stupid like some over at IUT’s with Mr. absentee moderator/web-bastard.
The time is NOW!
I don’t believe this, I really don’t.
I’m not even going to respond.
So while we are talking about DTT want to point out another of their screeds…
IMO: There is nothing about riots that is entertaining or even slightly amusing. I’m just hoping this tool shows up at Rainbow Studios with some pathetic sign, just so I can have a look at stupid. That’s my dream scenario!
And that kind of evil (and it is evil) that DUMPTHETOKENS presents over there is rarely (if ever) challenged or confronted in a vigorous manner. Too often, it seems, it is applauded. And then they wonder (or whine about) why Imus spends the time he does discussing race.
Oh yeah …that’s right …I forgot …he does it because he has to …the PC police are forcing him.
Like Curly Howard would say (yeah …the one from the 3 Stooges) …nyuck nyuck nyuck! …WHAT A BUNCH OF MAH-ROOONS!!!
That is not totally accurate, Mike.
There are three or four posters who have challenged that creature on a regular basis. Check yesterday and again this morning. Names are, DumptheDump, RTR and Taryn and maybe a couple of others on occasion.
I do agree, however, that there are some who appear to applaud and go along with what the bigot has to say.
Opps and of course, Skiwolf has gone after the creature on a regular bais. 🙂
Your right, avatarless, there are those three or four. It’s disheartening to me, though, that it’s only those three or four. Something like that should be a no-brainer for everyone. But …the world is what it is. You and Skiwolf, keep up the good work, if you’ve got the stomach for it.
do Imus and Tony know that Paul Harveys wife died ove the weekend?
Not everyone has the stomach for these types of discussions. Additionally there are people who use the pretext of DTT comments to advance individual agendas.
Skiwolf is one of those people who has the stomach for the discussion. He is a standup guy, wouldn’t you agree Avartarless? 🙂
I’ve challenged him on occasion. Unfortunately It reminds me of the Robert Heinlein saying “Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.”
Basically he’s no different than the Sharpton/Ifill/Stereo Hype types. It seems that people don’t want to be annoyed with facts. Like I’ve been saying for over a year now , just because you say it, doesn’t make it true.
I will give him credit though, he has made me change my vocabulary. In the mornings I no longer take a dump, now I take a “DumpTheTokens.
I had to laugh PT at how many got the whole thing you did on the name, “Hussein”. Sadly, almost no one. It was quite telling. Good job with that BTW. Was a great visual presentation of the point. You get an A for effort and well something less for results, to your point above.
mike08exdem,
Re; DTT, just a thought
The specter of banishment may play a role in responses to DTT’s keyboard dribble.
This is great The Hudson Blog is also advertizing the Imus radiothon with a clickable widget.
http://thecanessacorner.blogspot.com/2008/05/sharptons-had-chance-to-be-real-leader.html
I am sorry for opening this can of worms regarding Imus Truth. But I find it truly a hateful site.
And to Bella who I have put on the spot. Do not be afraid of me or anyone here regarding what I said.
Sometimes shaking the tree does get some discussion going that we seem to all agree on. So get back here and state your case. Whatever you do say will be respected.
Cannot understand how that no brain WebMaster has allowed it to go on over there.
And yes Avatar there have been attempts to silence DumpTheTokens by a few people. Generally mild mannered people too. But it will take a total revolt by the entire contributing posters on that site to shut that person off. And just pound at them till that person shuts up.
What I do find comical is that many posters on Imus Truth monitor this site. And call us hateful or boring.
But if you follow along from thread to thread on IUT, you will see less and less regular posters are posting. Rather than fight, they just quit making a statement. It is sad. Truly sad.
Thank you Channel, Mike, PTB, Avatarless. Waiting for Ree and Frec to weigh in later and of course Donald.
There are more ways to skin a cat. (A terrible saying by the way). And if we cannot take the fight to them, let them come here and try it with this well run site. It would be a Blood Bath.
I am not an internet expert, and I was told by those supposed to know that you should IGNORE what they are calling trolls, people who come on to try to cause trouble. So that is what I do for the most part. Don’t feed the trolls, they say. I resent being “called out” to police a website because somebody comes on with a name I don’t recognise as being a regular. In fact, the first time this person you all are discussing came on the site, I said something to the effect that “people who come on with strange names don’t appear to be regulars of this group.” Trying to get out the message they are NOT part of the group.
And don’t come over to another site and then post something I say on this site. If I have something I want to say here, I will say it.
And one more thing, if you all will go back and read some of the posts that Bruce has made on this website, I dare you to call them civilized. They are certainly insults to others. You all have a lot of nerve insulting people who are not even thinking about you, much less wanting to post on this website. Bruce’s comments many times can be considered as threats and that is against the law in my understanding.
Excellent reply Bella. And you are a mainstay here with much to say that is worth every word written.
But sometimes being overcome by the Trolls or Racists on Imus Truth is too overwhelming and action must be taken by all.
One or two comments are easily ignored. But constant “MEMOREX” type statements are not. Attack when they least expect it. It does get results.
Thanks Bella
Welcome to our Humble Abode.
I see Mel, Brian, Dumpthetokens and all you knob heads from Imus Truth reading here.
Enjoy your viewing. But whenever you wish to make a comment drop on in. You will get a warm welcome.
Maybe as warm as “HELL”. Because that is where you will be wanting to go.
Thanks Bella for inviting them over. The more the merrier.
Notice I didn’t cut and paste your comment.
Could be wrong, personal view, we are all part of the I-Nation regardless of where you post or comment. News items, information or ideas I present (including the I-Pipes) are available to all to use as they see fit without limitation.
Certainly have not viewed ImusTruth and ImusTimes as being a reincarnation of the Jets and the Sharks. Although I fear there are some who do, which is unfortunate.
OK Bella,
You interpret some of my words as threats? Come on Bella. You tout your intelligence and agree with morons on Imus Truth.
I do not need to defend myself to you or anyone. If you do not understand T.I.C. statements, then there is really a problem.
Love your anger. It shows you can be that way here, but not on the site that deserves it.
Have fun floating in the cesspool of dribble on Imus Truth.
My only purpose has been to drive down the likes of DTT and those that clearly revel in that person’s racist and bigoted comments. For that I apologize to no one. In fact, I will continue to do so.
That said, I can only echo X’s remarks about the I-Nation.
Hey Bruce, notice anything BTW?
Sorry it has to end this way, but Bruce you are a nutjob. Now don’t post my name any more.
I am glad you are back here SkiWolf. And your avatar is priceless.
Stick around. All of us have fun and we practice Freedom of Speech too.
Will not speak for Keith, but he stopped posting at Imus Truth for the same reason Channel, Donald and for the most art PTBartman has. It isn’t very valuable any longer.
So you can tell those that live under the bridge over there that for me.
Welcome back.
Bella you are sad. So sad. Be careful. The Bridge is under repair.
Good Day!
Good point Ski, this isn’t about ImusTruth, it’s about DTT.
Noticed the avatar your using looks a lot like avartarless’. Coincidence? Very clever..
That’s just a nasty rumor about avatarless. Go figure. 🙂
To be clear regarding commenting on ImusTruth. Both ImusTimes and ImusTruth are part of the I-Nation. Where persons comment is based on individual preference. I am working with Keith on ImusTimes which keeps me busy enough. For me it is about time management as much as anything…
Damn, I guess my avatar was here today gone today. Oh well was too much work anyhow. 😦
I see your avatar Ski!
Gone here, Harley? Strange.
Avatar takes awhile to populate the servers first time around. Looking good Skiwolf.
Bruce,
I usually scan this site before I read in detail the comments on Imus Truth. You are an absolute blowhard and seem to have the worldly view of Reverend Wright and Rush: it is all about you on this site. What is the point? You are the reason why I (and I assume many others) normally spend little time reviewing the comments.
This tough talk is silly. You are there and we are somewhere else. Earth to Bruce, this is not a real physical world where you can actually “reach” people. You sound like a bully that if really confronted face to face, would run and cry somewhere. Making strong comments about Bella is idiotic and demonstrates that you somehow think this little world is important.
People like you usually have nothing else going on in life so this becomes your entire world. Stop talking like a tough guy when there is absolutely nothing you can do to anyone.
Nice to hear from you Rocky. I don’t run from controversy nor am I a bully.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Good Day!
Bruce,
I am right! You have nothing to do but monitor this site all day long! Aren’t you just so witty with the “door” comment. I have other things to do.
I loved this one Rocky. Makes me believe you are the one who runs away from controversy.
The witty words by rocktrail. Good Grief.
Dang, Mr. Deggans just doesn’t stop…………..
http://blogs.tampabay.com/media/2008/05/when-will-patri.html
Still arguing with folks! 🙂
Deegans writes
Why haven’t they lost their political influence? Probably for the same reasons Obama and Clinton are vying for Sharpton’s endorsement.
ThanX Harley
Skiwolf…that’s soooo cool – your avatar, that is. Just waited ’till you found the right one, n’est ce pas?
Thank you frec. There were several issues involved so let me just say it was the right time. The origin of my name and avatar can be found here.
http://www.wolfcreekski.com
skiwolf The avatar will come and go till it sets on all of WordPress servers not to worry. I agree with Frec it’s a cool avatar.
I don’t usually post duplicate messages on both IT and Times. But I’m making an exception just to be clear about my stance on the recent unpleasantness. I just posted the following on IT:
Well, guess what? Last night and this morning, I had typed up two “strongly worded statements,” one for IT and one for Times. In each instance, there was a Power Greater than Myself which intervened and wiped them both out! Now there’s a message telling me I was supposed to shut up…
It’s easy enough for me to skip or ignore postings that don’t suit me. But I reached the point I had to ask myself if I was willing to do what I’d expected Obama to do…walk out of the church in the face of racist hate speech? Unless you’re speaking of bus fare, the “T” word and the “N” word are the same to me.
If the air has been cleared, I would rather stay. There’s good people, good dialog and the pod-casts…not to mention the amazing Cid. I sure hope he comes back…we need his positive affirmations. 🙂
I like both boards. They each offer something different to the Imus audience.
If this post “goes through,” I was finally meant to say it…better, I’m sure, than it would have been.
Well said Frec, ThanX.
Since “DTT” has been open for discussion here on this thread, I will break one of my core beliefs that attacking another poster is not welcome, nor correct. On PRINCIPAL…I will deviate from that policy.
“These are only sites, not real life. I have to admit that I find Dump The Tokens to be more amusing than offensive, maybe I should take it more serious. Perhaps it doesn’t bother me much because he doesn’t seem to be attacking a specific person (except for Obama).”
WRONG.
Maybe not real life…but real people are typing these comments…and also agreeing with “DTT”.
By the way…
“Perhaps it doesn’t bother me much because he doesn’t seem to be attacking a specific person (except for Obama).”
WRONG again:
“How many ghettos would be burned down that night? Compton? East. St. Louis? Detroit? The rioting would go on for days…and we’d get to watch on our TVs. Get the popcorn ready!”
DTT has exhibited so many racist comments (just go back into the archives from the point DTT first started posting and read some of the venom he has towards Afro-Americans) that I am personally worried…for one, that others embrace DTT and agree with him…and two: only a handful of brave souls that contribute to that site (and what about the “moderator”?) are standing up as moral human beings that have the guts to take DTT on. I applaud those that have, and I thank those honorable people. Try engaging in honest discussion and stay away from “name calling”. Allow him to reduce himself to the point where he no longer has a point. That may be difficult, because, as P.T. has said in the above thread…“Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.”
The freedom of speech is priceless…many have fought and died for those principles.
Freedom of speech might have saved Germany from Hitler, and Russia from Stalin.
So use it. There are such aspects in life such as the defending of the weak, the oppressed and the unrighteously persecuted.
So DO use your free speech…and DO speak your mind. Let the majority rule, and hold evil accountable.
Freedom of speech, from a disturbed and warped mind, can be and allowed to be heard. Freedom of speech can also render those types to the level of discourse they belong.
Well see now I view the whole Cid thing as a personal challenge as if he’s the only who can cook. In preperation for the upcoming memorial day weekend I humbly offer the following:
Guacamole Recipe
3 – 5 Avocados
Diced Tomatoes well drained
2 – 4 Garlic Cloves finely minced or pressed
1 Medium Red Onion finely chopped
Small handful of Cilantro chopped – careful not too much
Your choice of hot sauce to taste
Celery salt to taste – secret ingredient – not too much
Juice of one lime – not too much
Cut avocados in half and spoon out inside in one piece if possible. Use a small sharp knife to cut into small chunky pieces. Do not over mix and turn into mush.
” channelXRFR
Well said Frec, ThanX.”
What more could I add… 🙂
I thank you also Frec.
Hey Ski…I cook every night! (almost). LOL
Cid IS a treasure. A more humble and likable person I could EVER want to meet. He is a ray of sunshine…God bless him!
Well, Ski, I had made Cid’s tuna croquettes, so to be fair, I’ll make your guacamole. This is Cinco de Mayo, after all.
Interesting?????????
Bruce…
Best to let it go. The Moderator has intervened…and with some luck…civility will return. Debates and opinions are good at any site. Even though this IS cyberspace…one shouldn’t leave their moral compass behind. I’m hoping for the best at ImusTruth. It isn’t a contest or any war between anyone. I once had many friends there. None of whom I had ever met, yet had comradeship during the “Minus The Imus” times.
There are great people there…and also here.
It’s been my privilege to come to know many of the good people that supported Imus during those times.
Sometimes…things work out and for the best. Other times, not. We live with, and in those times. We sort them out. We have a time for contentions, and also for healing.
Time for healing, forgiveness…aw heck:
“Turn Turn Turn”…the Byrds:
To everything
There is a season
And a time for every purpose, under heaven
A time to be born, a time to die
A time to plant, a time to reap
A time to kill, a time to heal
A time to laugh, a time to weep
To everything
There is a season
And a time for every purpose, under heaven
A time to build up,a time to break down
A time to dance, a time to mourn
A time to cast away stones, a time to gather stones together
To everything
There is a season
And a time for every purpose, under heaven
A time of love, a time of hate
A time of war, a time of peace
A time you may embrace, a time to refrain from embracing
To everything
There is a season
And a time for every purpose, under heaven
A time to gain, a time to lose
A time to rend, a time to sew
A time to love, a time to hate
A time for peace, I swear its not too late
Bruce, if you and I can be friends might I request that you just let all this stuff go? Time to move on, eh?
Ski
Congrats to Donaldlinks and Skiwolf…such wonderful thoughts and words!! PEACE to all…
skiwolf I like your avatar.
I think the webmaster at Imus Truth took care of the thread
DUMP GOT DUMPED!!!!
Posted by: | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 06:34 AM
I think Imus Truth made it clear how to post, I don’t know that RemoveTheSidekicks is even the same person DTT you know it isn’t a real name it could be several people, better to not feed it that is what they thrive on.
Ginger and I am still working on the I Man myspace page my daughter Pleasant added some more music and a new blog check it out if you get a chance. We all are having fun with myspace page for I Man and the Imus Radiothon May 8th and 9th, we will turn it into Imus on Air myspace page once the Radiothon is over. You all should get a myspace page and join check out all the fun friends we have collected so far…Larry the Cable Guy and Cher imagine what their progeny would look like no really imagine it GRIN.
There is an air of superiority here that is equal to Media Matters where people think they have the right to monitor other sites.
This site is not perfect. You have a DTT here and his name is Bruce. He insults, harasses, and browbeats others, and not public figures, but people who are fellow-Ifans. I have never understood the competition between the sites and the need to make insults like “the morons on Imus Truth” just to mention a mild statement. But he told me to go back under the bridge or something to that effect and other cracks which I think are totally inappropriate. Go back and read some of his statements.
But I am sure you know by know that the web-master on Imus Truth, who has also suffered insults, has taken an action so everyone should be happy now. The web-master is the appropriate person to take any action on the site. I resent and protest being held responsible for posts made by others, but then I really don’t know where anyone gets the authority to monitor another site. Just leave it alone.
So back under my bridge I go.
Ree, If in fact “DUMP GOT DUMPED” there is a certain amount sadness on my part because I was really hoping to see “Stupid” incarnate. Of course there are still some who are pinning away for this person with best wishes for the new “nom de plume”. 😉
Bellalu0 – You don’t belong under any bridge, so get out from under there! I enjoy your posts and look foward to future postings!! Keep smiling:)
POV Bruce was singled out and attacked by a set of people earlier in the year. Bruce being Bruce responded to those attacks. For that response he was banned from ImusTruth. Bruce is understandably upset by that action. That is between Bruce and the webmaster at ImusTruth.
I’m also aware that persons will comment on Bruce over at ImusTruth for entertainment value and will on occasion come over to ImusTimes to put a stick in Bruce’s eye (figuratively of course) with a very predictable response.
So when Bruce is commenting on ImusTruth its not about the overall ImusTruth community. It’s about a small number of commenters who have issues with Bruce
Bella, you don’t belong under a bridge. If you are under a bridge I’m there with you!
Who knows who he is talking about? He has called my name in several instances so for those comments he has to take responsibility. So now I have an issue with Bruce.
Bruce does get heated and uses language that is encompassing. There is a very spirited back and forth between both of you on this thread. Bruce and yourself have both been here since the beginning, we’ve had each others backs, it would be a shame… Hope there is a way to settle this.
Every day, I receive an e-mail affirmation from Imus’ Hanley Center…this is today’s transmission:
Now, I happen to own a copy of the book from which the quote is taken. So I referenced it to see what else it says on that page…here’s some of what I found:
http://www.hanleycenter.org/
Anyone can sign up for the daily affirmation at the Hanley Center website. They don’t hassle you for anything, or put you on any pop-up lists…
“One More Cow” from Craig Crawford’s board…
So many posts to read, so little time.
I’ve been gone all day and I’m trying to catch up. Sort of scanned all the comments …read some of the ones at IT …had some time to think about my comments this morning …
I’m standing by what I said …evil is evil …and DTT’s comments were just that—plain old evil …some people get it, apparently some don’t. That’s why it’s called an imperfect world, I guess.
I detect no air of superiority here. But I do sense a desire for honest dialog (for most, anyway). If the views are too open, the subjects too serious for some …let me quote our Vice President here …So!
Nice avatar, avatarless (SkiWolf) …did you find it somewhere or did you make it …it’s actually pretty neat.
Ok Frec you are getting sued for causing a severe cramp in my right side from laughing so hard. Already set as my new wall paper for the computer. Thanks for that! I am so LMAO!
Ski,
I’m glad you got a chuckle 🙂
Speaking of Craig’s board (which I think is great – please, no backlash from Craig-people), I just saw over there they were in the middle of one of their mud-slinging fests. Not to downplay it, I’m sure it’s serious to those involved. Considering the level of social, political, and economic tension we live under, some lashing out from time to time is understandable.
My curiosity is this: the typeface on Craig’s board is much smaller and more challenging to read than either here or IT…we have BIG typeface – easier to read, but does it make our words take on “larger” significance, making it more difficult to get past? Some of the “Trailmixers” hurl insults like the “Food Fight!” in Animal House…but soon it all goes by in a blur, followed by hundreds of “normal” comments. Or at least the site continues on, seemingly unaffected. A curious effect, and one I want to ponder some more. Human nature is so fascinating… 🙂
Hey Laree,
I actually didn’t think about your post much regarding something you suggested we just leave alone so I won’t mention it. But, I went and checked and apparently you are right. We’ll see. Be interesting. 🙂
In the mean-time (no pun intended), Craig Crawford posted this one himself.
Good words…what did Ben have that made people listen??
What is the Iman’s fascination with matt taibi?? I don’t like him and am sick and tired of Imus’s butt kissing . He has talent right there – Bernie and Lou–who hardly speak anymore, yet he’ll ramble on about m.t. like he’s something great.
Perhaps Iman is trying to work a younger demographic. Or he is trying synch us up with a younger demographic.
Show needs some Bernie and Lou face time. They were both a lot more interactive with cameras on them. BTW Warner doing sports is not getting it done for me. Breen and Criqui they were great. Ten minutes with either of them prepped me for my sports conversations for the entire day.
This will be short and sweet.
Sometimes a person must eat “Humble Pie”. And thinking you are always right is not necessarily the correct thing to do. Especially when you are faceless in hyper-space.
With that “My Sincerest apologies to any and all those I may have offended” in the most recent episode of posts by me.
I will only add that my “Mission Was Accomplished” directed at only one person on a different I-Nation Site. And that is all I was trying to convey.
Enjoy our Freedom of Speech here and elsewhere. For now I shall go under “MY BRIDGE” and do what I have been doing for the longest time.
With Sincerest apologies again to anyone who felt they were being singled out on Imus Times.
Over and Out
Bruce from Florida. South West Florida.
While it’s nice to see a half-apology above, it’s not enough. Therefore, I must agree with Bella.
DTT is an idiot..all intelligent people know that. I also know that like all idiots and bullies, he will go away when ignored.
I find DTT and Bruce to be EXACTLY the same in style and substance. Yet because Bruce was “here from day one” he is tolerated. That makes no sense to me.
I’m still waiting for Bruce to come to Cincinnati and put some actual reality behind his oh-so-macho threats. Til then, I will just regret the fact that Imus attracts such an embarassing and intolerant element to his fan base.
Now in keeping with his repeated demands that all those who disagree with him be banned from this site by his “friends in high places”, I’ll go join Bella under the bridge.
Have a great day.
DJ,
You miss the major difference between DTT and Bruce. DTT would never admit that he was wrong nor apologize.
On to your other point…
I don’t remember one let alone “repeated demands that all those who disagree with him be banned from this site by his “friends in high places”, “. So I’m asking that you refresh my memory. Links? Date and time? Cut and paste? Anything? Anything?
PTB
(Reporting from underneath a safe, secret, secure bridge.)
Just so we can save the food fight for something that matters (like racist remarks) Bruce from time to requested persons be banned from posting. 1) Typically this has followed an unprovoked attack on Bruce and 2) Bruce and the attacker were evenly matched, neither getting the best of each other (WWE FAN NATION).
Of those occasional requests, have pointed out that no one has ever been banned from either SupportImus or ImusTimes.
So there is no misunderstanding, DDT is bluntly and unapologetically racist and that is what that commenter has been called on. Re: Comments 134 and 146.
Makes me sad thinking DDT may be banned from ImusTruth because I was so much wanting to see stupid with that pathetic sign standing at the Rainbow Studio window.
Now I will go find that bridge where everyone seems to be headed!
Looks like it might be getting a bit crowded under that bridge….
Should we just cross on over to the other side?
I suspect people will have something else to talk about after tonight’s votes are counted. Then the fur may really start flying “Smoke coming from Denver” I can’t tell yet but if Rush Limbaugh and all have their fun’ this thing is going to stretch into June At least. I think the Democrats should take a long hard look at how they set up their primary system and see if they need some changes it looks like it is too easily gamed.
Frec, is CraigCrawford’s Trail Mix really rowdy? They post so fast and furious it is hard to keep up with the threads.
Over at TrailMix – Crawford is running VP Madness! Brackets for the political set.
Provides a good rundown of potential running mates along with a brief analysis. Best part you get to choose.
Make your picks Click | Here
Sharptons demonstration set for tomorrow
Note: If your going into the city use the trains
Source: NY POST
Say it ain’t so!! I know someone who travels the Lincoln tunnel everyday. Hopefully that will remain clear! I can’t stand Sharpton, he is as trouble maker and a liar.
Sharpton is promising a demonstration once a week
Yes, he will be disrupting the Lincoln tunnel. He is a despicable person! Thanks Channel for the heads-up.
Laree,
On Craig’s board, you must lead, follow, or get out of the way…I got run over on the Trail myself 🙂
just kidding — Craig is a good moderator.
Frec,
It is like they run posting marathons GRIN.
I was curious so I checked to see where Matt Taibbi’s New Book is on Amazon “The Great Derangment” is number #35
With what looks like a forward? or something by Jeanean Gerlafalo..I just murdered her last name unintentionally.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/ref=pd_ts_pg_2?ie=UTF8&pg=2
Craigs site has gotten really good. Ree and Frec, ThanX for bringing it over…
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Well, thanks, ChanX — it was Keith who added “Trailmix” to the blogroll…he gets the credit. All we did was ask… 🙂
I voted…in the CQ VP Sweepstakes… not much of a “bracket person.” Looks idiot-proof, so I should be okay.
Hey, Colin Powell is less than a year younger than McCain, according to the bio’s? They’ve made such a big deal out of McCain’s age, but nothing about Powell’s — he seems ageless. Could this be the Grumpy Old Men ticket? He got my vote anyway. I like Haley Barbour too…he’s done good things in the neighboring state where I know a few people and spend some time… all for fun 🙂
Frec, I’m not voting Republican but I’ve always liked Colin Powell and he would be a great choice for McCain, I think. “Grumpy Old Men” ticket.. that’s cute.. LOL
Well, tonight exhausted me! And now off we go to the next primary! By the time November comes around, you can just wipe me off the floor. If I’m feeling that way, just think how the candidates are feeling. Maybe we should call this election “The Long Goodbye”.
Imus hopes radiothon is easy as ‘ABC
By DAVID HINCKLEY
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Wednesday, May 7th 2008, 4:00 AM
Watts/News
Last year, Don Imus got fired halfway through his telethon.
When Don Imus launches his annual charity radiothon tomorrow, he has at least two specific goals: 1) raise a lot of money and 2) stay employed for the radiothon’s full two days.
Last year, radio fans will remember, he met only one of those goals. He was fired from WFAN (660 AM) after the first day, as a result of the unrelated firestorm over his earlier comments on the Rutgers women’s basketball team.
He’s now on WABC (770 AM), where the radiothon will run tomorrow and Friday, 6-10 a.m., with his usual 6-9 a.m. simulcast on RFD-TV.
The beneficiaries, as in the past, will be the Tomorrows Children’s Fund, the CJ Foundation for sudden infant death syndrome and the Imus Ranch for Kids With Cancer.
Now in its 19th year, the radiothon has raised more than $40 million, and Joel Hollander, who founded the CJ Foundation with his wife, Susan, after their daughter, Carly Jenna, died of SIDS, says it has made tangible differences.
“When we started the foundation, there were more than 8,000 SIDS deaths a year,” Hollander says.
“We launched a nationwide education campaign, among other things, and now it’s less than 4,000 a year. We have saved lives.”
Similarly, notes Hollander, the Tomorrows Children Fund has helped make Hackensack University Medical Center one of the premier hospitals in the country for children with cancer, and the Imus Ranch hosts dozens of children a year under the personal supervision of Imus and his wife, Deirdre.
The radiothon will be a little different on WABC than WFAN, primarily because it won’t be picked up by other hosts through the day. Since most WABC hosts are nationally syndicated, explains program director Phil Boyce, “It just doesn’t work out.”
But WABC will have Eric Hastings do “drop-ins” three times an hour all day, promoting the radiothon and giving the 800 number for donations.
The RFD audience is also a wild card, but clearly is a factor. Imus says the staff has been exploring whether they can install a mechanical bull outside his studio near Penn Station for the next two days.
Perhaps ironically, notes Hollander, last year’s radiothon set an all-time record for donations.
“Because of everything that was going on, and the publicity, and some people being angry, we raised more money than ever,” Hollander says. “The charities did really well.”
This year, he says, it’s harder to predict what to expect. He notes the assistance from WFAN in past years, and the work by WFAN hosts like Mike Francesa and Chris Russo, while also praising WABC for taking on the commitment now.
Imus, meanwhile, has been coordinating corporate sponsors and the rest of the pre-show logistics while keeping focused on his own goals.
“I am pumped,” he says, “about the prospect of keeping my job for the duration of the radiothon.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2008/05/07/2008-05-07_imus_hopes_radiothon_is_easy_as_abc.html
They’re going to have a mechanical bull outside the window tomorrow! OK, which one of you is gonna be there to ride it?
We Want LENNY! We Want LENNY! We Want LENNY! We Want LENNY! We Want LENNY! We Want LENNY! We Want LENNY! We Want LENNY!
I live in NJ. Can someone recommend a good 12 step program that will help me to stop responding to DarthBigot on Imus Truth.
Hello my name is Ski — I’m a antibigotholic. Ok now everyone say “hello Ski”.
Heehee…Imus is really ticked at Harold Ford, Jr. He’s complaining about getting annoying e-mails from him, and wants to know how to get them blocked. I chuckled because a poster yesterday on Craig gets those e-mails too, and posted one on the board. In case anyone wants to see a sample of what Imus may be getting… must be a form letter… I’d want to be off that mailing list too… 🙂
“Dear —
I have officially moved to NBC after a year and productive stint with FOX News. Starting today, you will begin receiving notices about my appearances on NBC and MSNBC news and political shows. With election and economic news increasing, the appearances will be frequent.
This evening starting at 6:00 pm EST, 5:00 pm CST I will join the MSNBC news “Decision 08″ team to provide analysis of the election results from Indiana and North Carolina. The coverage will last through the evening.”
— Harold
Where in NJ? We can be each others sponsors. I tend to think of him as Ziggy Heil although I do like Darth Bigot.
Frec,
This must be the smack a weasel edition of IITM. First Russert then Ford.
Classic Imus today. Love when Buchanan is on and Imus is right about his laugh. Nice start to the day.
Three great interviews today and a whole lot of funny stuff around it…
PT — I missed whatever about Russert, what happened? Gotta run…crazy day…later…
And smack a weasel. Listen to them sing Happy Birthday Russert and some of the stuff they stick in the “Happy Birthday deeeear…” part. It should be n the first segment o the replay if I remember.
PTB
New Thread “Support the Imus Radiothon”